Starting Space Wolves

[Dornith]

Hi everyone,

With Christmas coming, I have decided that I want to start Space Wolves. I love their lore, stats, colors, models, literally everything about them. I was hoping you guys could help me start, by giving me the best lists for about 1500 points. I will mainly be playing against tyranids, so that is what I would like the list to be based around. Thanks for all of the help!

[Rune_Priest_Rhapsody]

Welcome to the Fang and the brotherhood of the Aett!!

 

It's not that simple. Giving you 'the best' list can mean many things. A Tyranid list is much different that an all comers list. Also, what is your playstyle?? Do you want to be an aggressive alpha striking player?? Do you want to be a thematic fluff oriented player?? Do you want mech (tanks and junk), or giant wolves to ride?? Power armor or terminator armor??

 

Maybe a little more information about what you are looking to accomplish would offer us some better understanding.

 

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[Dornith]

Sorry for not being clear. So I am playing against tyranids. My playing style varies. Sometimes I play extremely patient and tactical, other times I go in guns blazing. It depends on the situation. I do really like the wolves. Thunderwolves are one of the main reason I want to start Space Wolves. I also like Bjorn and Murderfang. Their fluff interests me quite a lot. Also just some general tips on wargear for wolf guard, or grey hunters would be helpful. My friend who plays tyranids usually uses one horde of about 30 hormagaunts or termagants, and some large creatures like harpies, carnifexes, trygons, all that stuff. If there is any more information that would be useful let me know. Thanks!

[Donkalleone]

IF u really start the game buy what you like. What u listed i would suggest to buy the following.

 

3 x Thunder Wolves . (6 Regular , 2 are made into Iron Priest TWM and 1 Wolf Lord TWM [i would make a Harald Stand in or Krakenbone Lord)

2x Fenrisan Wolves , these wil be your "Cyber Wolves"

1x Chaos Warhounds these will be your regular Fenrisan wolves , cut the Horns (or not) and you have a cheaper alternative (since they come in 10 and look different)

2x GH with regular 8 Bolter and 2 Special weapons per pack.

 

These are easely 1000Points

 

Thats enough for the Start and i would wait with buying the Dread  since u already will be be having your handsfull.

´Take a look at the "warriors of the Fang" starter Box it has 2 GH units and A Droppod whhich u will need for sure. The Jumppack units can be easy made to wolf guard and the long fangs are usefull. This box if looking money wise at it "gifts" you the Pod and the HQ since the other units combined cost as much as the box.

 

Buying the Box for the 2 GHs will give u easy 1500points when combined with Cavellery mentioned above.

[Hear da Lamentation]

Some good advice here.

 

I would be careful though on the "but the units you like" though. This could be a recipe for you ending up with units you find dont work together and can't use.

 

You like TWC ... they are our best unit so these are a given.

 

Dreads usually need a drop pod (bear that in mind).

[marvmoogy]

If you like Bjorn and Muderfang - take them!  To get the best of MF, then you need to pod him in.  This is now leading me to something along the lines of:

 

Bjorn + pod

Muderfang + pod

10 Grey hunters (with CCWs and 2x melta) + pod

10 grey hunters (with CCWs and 2x plasma) + pod

1 empty pod (then you get 3/5)

 

I haven't got my codex to hand so can't work out points on the above.  With whatever you have left, take a TW lord and TWC.  

 

Strike your pods down which gives the enemy a priority while your TWC roll up and bring some pain

[Leif Bearclaw]

Is FW a consideration here? If you can get away with it, there's a rich seam of good stuff there, especially if you want an alternative to 'take TWC and beat face'.

 

War gear wise? It's the same as any other 40k army really (sorry, have no clue about your overall experience level), don't go overboard. As a general rule more models with leaner loadouts will be more effective than a smaller force, extravagantly equipped. In that vein, PAWG units aren't really worth it, unless you give them bikes, which are a decent shout. As for WG Terminators? Pick a role, and focus them accordingly, don't try to make a jack of all trades unit, it's just not worth it.

 

Grey Hunters? Although annoyingly expensive, I'd certainly recommend paying the points for the ccw, especially if you're going down the pod route. GH are inherently a mid-short range unit thanks to the lack of heavy weapon options, which means a very high probability of being assaulted against Nids.

[Dornith]

Thanks for all of the advice. I think I will get:

1x Thunderwolvf Cavalry

1x Chaos Warhounds (for fenrisian wolves. extra wounds for the thunderwolves)

1x Warriors of the Fang

Either Bjorn or Murderfang

Either Canis Wolfborn, Harald Deathwolf or my own Wolf Lord

 

However I don't know what to equip them with. All of that combined is about 800-1000 points, but that is with nothing equiped. If someone could make me a list or give me some tips on wargear to give them and anything else in general to help me. Thanks

[Dornith]

Also are lone wolves worth it? They seem really good, especially if they are not a scoring unit.

[xxoblivionxx33]

I personally think lone wolves are a waste of an elite spot when there outshined by Iron Priests on thunder wolves and scout squads(for grabbing objectives). 

I however am a huge fan of thunder wolves. I run a list with 18 of them in it, and it only lost to white scars at a tournament recently , and that was mainly due to my opponent being an amazing 40k player. a unit of 6 thunder wolves were charged by a knight on turn two, and they sunk it . 

I run 3x 5 man squads with 5 shields, 3 chain swords, and 2 fists, i then have 2 iron priests with 4 cyber wolves(1 in each unit) and a wolf lord in the unit with no priest with runic armour a shield a fist(2+3++ tanking shots all day long). I used to underestimate the iron priest. then i used him and his cyber wolves. DO NOT underestimate the priest. He's ridiculously good, as long as he's not running up front(thats where his wolves go) . he has 2 specialist weapons and he's either hitting str 10 ap2 or str 10 ap1. 

[Dornith]

Wow, sounds good. Thanks, might use that list. Thunderwolves are my favorite part of space wolves.

[Vykryl]

Lone wolves can be useful. They lost a bit not being able to take chainfist/storm shield in the new dex. You may take one Lone Wolf that doesn't take a force org slot for each pack of Bloodclaws, Grey Hunters, or Wolf Guard you take

[Donkalleone]

a tip for general at starting the game. Find a Store that gives 10-20% on GW Articles and let them order a "Warriors of the Fang" Box for you even if they didnt listed it. This Box is not Web Exclusive and 10-15% on this is huge.

[d@n]

If you want to build your army around fighting nids, then a gun line is your best option. 3x units of long fangs and ulrik to buff them is a pretty good starting point. I haven't played nids for a while, so I don't know if any of the new units or formations have fixed any of there weaknesses, but tradionally you should target there synapses creatures and stay in cover as almost nothing in there codex has grenades.

[Sarchas]

I play tyranids too and if you want an army to specifically fight 'Nids the gunline(ish) army is a decent idea, longfangs with ML and maybe heavy bolters depending on the size of his swarms. And position things so that Ulrics preferred enemy bubble stretches to your troops as much as possible.

TWC is still a great idea though, probably wouldnt need hammers or axes on them for 'Nids as the armour saves for thier MC are pretty awful so claws and swords would do, same with power weapons or upgrades on the troops and TDA.

The other thing is Dreds and tanks, it can be hard for 'Nids to deal with armour, especially with a swarm type army, not much in the way of decent high strength low AP weaponry so he would likely have to try to take it out in melee with a MC.

1500 on the nose

HQ

Ulric

Rune Priest

- lvl 2

- Bike

Elite

Dreadnaught

- Venerable

- Plasma cannon

- Power fist + heavy flamer

- Drop Pod

Wolf Guard TDA

- 4 x storm bolter and power sword

- 1 x heavy flamer and power sword

Troops

Grey Hunters x 10

- 2 x flamer

Grey Hunters x 10

- 2 x Plasma gun

Fast Attack

Thunderwolf Cavalry x 4

- 1 x pair of wolf claw

- 3 x Bolt pistol and Chainsword

Heavy Support

Long Fangs x 6

- 1 x Ancient with plasma gun

- 4 x Missile launcher

- 1 x Heavy Bolter

Predator

- Twin linked Las cannon

- 2 x Lascannon sponson

Wolf priest on the bike has worked pretty well for me recently and can either go tempestas or maybe biomancy with the cavalry. point is to have a decent gun line so to speak then the dred and the TDA can deep strike and try to take out those synapse creatures. Meanwhile your Cavalry go MC hunting :)

I'm sure someone will have a better suggestion than this but thought I would give my 2p worth

[Amarog]

I've just started with wolves too, so welcome brother!

 

I've started getting bits and bobs. Most of the vehicles I have already so only really needed infantry.

 

2 units of gh , one with melts one with plasma.

1 full unit of blood claws, melts guns.

Have just purchased a stormwolf to put my claws and a priest in.

A wolf lord.

Some fenrisian wolves.

I have a couple of priests.

Then use the GH in pods or razorbacks.

And next I think I may purchase arjac and his crew, and maybe Bjorn and murderfang. Just for some added sparkle :)