Dom_ Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hey guys, So, I can't hold off any more. FW and its never ending supply of resin goodness has convinced me to start a 30k army. As of right now, I really want to start with the Alpha Legion. Here is a test marine I have just finished. I used the Forge World recipe using the Tamiya Clear paints. C&C welcome. I wasn't sure about the colour for the bolt pistol, so I went with grey. Any better suggestions? I'd like to have a an infantry based army, focusing around infiltrating, which I know the AL are quite good at. What I'd like to know is how best to represent this with an army. Should I go with bigger squads, or mechanised squads? I'd like to avoid anything like a Spartan for now, especially as I'd like to build up to 1000 points to start with. And I don't think I could face the horror of anything like a Spartan. From what I hear they are a nightmare. I'm quite interested in the Headhunter teams. Are these units different from the normal AL troops in terms of appearance? Thanks for all the help in advance! Dom_ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mate, that model is pretty fantastic. I assume it was airbrushed? The Headhunters, we won't know what they look like really until FW brings out their models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mate, that model is pretty fantastic. I assume it was airbrushed? The Headhunters, we won't know what they look like really until FW brings out their models. No, it wasn't airbrushed, but I'm happy you think it was! I had to thin down the paints a lot to make them usable for multiple coats. I do have an airbrush, but I've never got around to using it properly. Once I start building the army I might use it to speed things along. Hmmm, maybe a darker blue for them, with brighter shoulder pads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mate, that model is pretty fantastic. I assume it was airbrushed? The Headhunters, we won't know what they look like really until FW brings out their models. No, it wasn't airbrushed, but I'm happy you think it was! I had to thin down the paints a lot to make them usable for multiple coats. I do have an airbrush, but I've never got around to using it properly. Once I start building the army I might use it to speed things along. Hmmm, maybe a darker blue for them, with brighter shoulder pads. Maybe go with Amethyst Purple for the Headhunters or Black if you want them to be part of the Effrit Stealth Squads. Larnean Terminators (if you ever plan to use them) could go either way. In Extermination there is a vague list of colors they appeared in so the sky is literally the limit for ya. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Maybe go with Amethyst Purple for the Headhunters or Black if you want them to be part of the Effrit Stealth Squads. Larnean Terminators (if you ever plan to use them) could go either way. In Extermination there is a vague list of colors they appeared in so the sky is literally the limit for ya. Yeh, Purple is a great idea! Darker, but not too detached from the brighter main colours. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Mate, that model is pretty fantastic. I assume it was airbrushed? The Headhunters, we won't know what they look like really until FW brings out their models. No, it wasn't airbrushed, but I'm happy you think it was! I had to thin down the paints a lot to make them usable for multiple coats. :thanks: I do have an airbrush, but I've never got around to using it properly. Once I start building the army I might use it to speed things along. Hmmm, maybe a darker blue for them, with brighter shoulder pads. Wow, that's interesting. I love the FW scheme but the fact it was airbrushed put me off seeing as I don't own one and have never used one... Would it be possible for a step by step kind of thing? Don't worry if not. Purple sounds good for the head hunters. Like you say, darker but still in the same kind of theme. And I love purple. Aaaaand we're back to Alpha Legion... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Looks awesome. I'm going the purple way with my alpha legion using Tamiya purple, with a drachenhof night shade wash over it it's look cool. I'll try post a picture of my Dread I've done, it's not quite finished but I think the purple is, just requires some highlights. Edit: Where can I find the recipe for that? and what tamiya technical paint did you use? I got base and clear and the thinner and they don't really give you a good idea what exactly they do, apart from thinner of course :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Awesome work dude! I used the Tamiya clear paints when I painted my Alpha for the March of the Legions project, so I know how difficult they are to use without the airbrush. You've really pulled the colour scheme off perfectly, can't wait to see some more :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Looks awesome. I'm going the purple way with my alpha legion using Tamiya purple, with a drachenhof night shade wash over it it's look cool. I'll try post a picture of my Dread I've done, it's not quite finished but I think the purple is, just requires some highlights. Edit: Where can I find the recipe for that? and what tamiya technical paint did you use? I got base and clear and the thinner and they don't really give you a good idea what exactly they do, apart from thinner of course Wow, that's interesting. I love the FW scheme but the fact it was airbrushed put me off seeing as I don't own one and have never used one... Would it be possible for a step by step kind of thing? Don't worry if not. Purple sounds good for the head hunters. Like you say, darker but still in the same kind of theme. And I love purple. Aaaaand we're back to Alpha Legion... Thanks for the kind words! http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/232523-word-bearersplus-allies-cyrion-finished-28215/?p=3856790 Here's a step by step on a much better example, all credit to kizzdougs. I used the same Tamiya clear blue and clear green as he did. You have to use a good amount of Lahmian Medium to thin it down. I tried the Tamiya thinner that I use for all my other paints, but the clear paints were too glossy with it. Using the Medium helped to dull it down just enough. Awesome work dude! I used the Tamiya clear paints when I painted my Alpha for the March of the Legions project, so I know how difficult they are to use without the airbrush. You've really pulled the colour scheme off perfectly, can't wait to see some more Yeh I saw your post on it a few days ago when I was trying to make a start. It was actually your post and that you made it work with a brush that tipped me into trying it for myself Your Marine was utterly fantastic! Thanks for the feedback! Look out for a WiP thread once I get the ball (Resin) rolling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Here's how mine went, sorry for the lighting, it kind of washes out the purple in some places. I'm not the best painter and this was my first time both using a spray gun and tamiya paints. http://i57.tinypic.com/2s76ts3.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2lw5dgz.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/29fwe8x.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/289899-alpha-legion-colour-schemes/?hl=alpha%20legion%20scheme Heres a thread where peeps tried out various methods to getting some Alpha Schemes. Might help with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 Here's how mine went, sorry for the lighting, it kind of washes out the purple in some places. http://i57.tinypic.com/2s76ts3.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2lw5dgz.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/29fwe8x.jpg Very Nice! You're braver with freehand than I am. I like the shade of blue you have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Here's how mine went, sorry for the lighting, it kind of washes out the purple in some places. http://i57.tinypic.com/2s76ts3.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/2lw5dgz.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/29fwe8x.jpg Very Nice! You're braver with freehand than I am. I like the shade of blue you have. Actually I hate free handing, it's taking all the will power in me from going over what I've done, I don't think they're clear enough. I'm actually thinking of totally stripping it and trying to repair the shoulder more and perhaps try a more matt purple by using tamiya base in the mix. I'd love my painting to be as crisp as yours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 Before I place any orders, are there any specific armour variants that the Alpha Legion are more prone to using. I've heard that they had a good amount of prototype mk VI, though I can't find where that comes from. Should I avoid anything before mk IV? I can't imagine the AL would be best suited to it myself. Also, what would they have on their Right Shoulder pad. I'm going to pick up the shoulder set for the left side, but I'm not too sure want to keep the right blank. There are always the standard tactical squad markings and such, but I'm not sure the AL would have had them. @kizzdougs I know you put on chain symbols and the like on your marine, are there any resources available that detail markings like this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Their Prototype Mk VI they made themselves after having 'acquired' the plans for Earlier iterations of Mk VI before the design was finalized. Thus, they modified it and changed it to suit their needs. Since they're a traitor legion, Horus would have seen fit to outfit them better than their Loyalist Counter-Parts so by that virtue alone would have a higher ratio of Mk IV and Tartaros Power Armor / Terminator armor respectively. You could also justify almost anything, sadly imo, with "Alpha Legion Shenanigans, DealWithIt.JPEG" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Before I place any orders, are there any specific armour variants that the Alpha Legion are more prone to using. I've heard that they had a good amount of prototype mk VI, though I can't find where that comes from. Should I avoid anything before mk IV? I can't imagine the AL would be best suited to it myself. Also, what would they have on their Right Shoulder pad. I'm going to pick up the shoulder set for the left side, but I'm not too sure want to keep the right blank. There are always the standard tactical squad markings and such, but I'm not sure the AL would have had them. @kizzdougs I know you put on chain symbols and the like on your marine, are there any resources available that detail markings like this? The chains symbols are taken from the Alpha Legion art in book III. It's unconfirmed (just like everything else with the XX Legion) but suggested that the chains are used to denote rank (the more links in the chain the higher the rank). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relict Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 That is a fantastic Alpha Legionary. Well done! As for the bolters/bolt pistols, I think grey receiver with steel barrels/bolts/magazines look best. I would expect the Alpha Legion armory to be the most diverse of the Legions. The Mark VI that they use weren't exactly the same as the ones issued to the Raven Guard - Extermination states that the Alpha Legion acquired the plans and fabricated their own variant. FW has some lovely pauldrons with Alpha Legion iconography. They haven't announced any sort of transfer sheet for the Alpha Legion, I'm afraid. You can always use tactical markings from another Legion's transfer sheet. As for the chains motif... Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_ Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 That is a fantastic Alpha Legionary. Well done! As for the bolters/bolt pistols, I think grey receiver with steel barrels/bolts/magazines look best. I would expect the Alpha Legion armory to be the most diverse of the Legions. The Mark VI that they use weren't exactly the same as the ones issued to the Raven Guard - Extermination states that the Alpha Legion acquired the plans and fabricated their own variant. FW has some lovely pauldrons with Alpha Legion iconography. They haven't announced any sort of transfer sheet for the Alpha Legion, I'm afraid. You can always use tactical markings from another Legion's transfer sheet. As for the chains motif... Good luck. Thank you! I'll probably avoid any mk VI in that case, if they had their own variants then I won't want to use the standard pattern. I think I may go a route like the crimson fists with the chains. All legionnaires get one chain on one wrist. Veterans get a chain on each wrist. Maybe Sgts get a stripe on their helmet. I'll figure something out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 That is a fantastic Alpha Legionary. Well done! As for the bolters/bolt pistols, I think grey receiver with steel barrels/bolts/magazines look best. I would expect the Alpha Legion armory to be the most diverse of the Legions. The Mark VI that they use weren't exactly the same as the ones issued to the Raven Guard - Extermination states that the Alpha Legion acquired the plans and fabricated their own variant. FW has some lovely pauldrons with Alpha Legion iconography. They haven't announced any sort of transfer sheet for the Alpha Legion, I'm afraid. You can always use tactical markings from another Legion's transfer sheet. As for the chains motif... Good luck. Thank you! I'll probably avoid any mk VI in that case, if they had their own variants then I won't want to use the standard pattern. I think I may go a route like the crimson fists with the chains. All legionnaires get one chain on one wrist. Veterans get a chain on each wrist. Maybe Sgts get a stripe on their helmet. I'll figure something out. Well they had their own pattern but the pictures of AL in MkVI armour are exactly the same armour as the RG in MkVI armour. I'd imagine it looks pretty damn similar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/304049-starting-the-hh-with-the-alpha-legion/#findComment-3964731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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