Ulfast Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 So I have been away from KDK for almost two years. Anyone that know how the army is doing and what is in flavor right now? Some new and nasty tricks to pick up? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4673395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Sorcerer Cabal + Gorepack is a filthy, rage-inducing combination that's pretty good from what I hear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4673659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfast Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 That is propably a very good combination but it just sounds wrong. Why should Khorne need sorcerer to be good?! ;) We should do it without magic :) Any other tricks and advice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4674337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I agree, and to answer your second question not really. The Fist of Khorne formation is decent, but very expensive. I'm a bit out of touch with KDK against the current high power lists, but on our own I don't think we're anywhere near competitive with the top tier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4674652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthorhuss Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Take blood host detachment with minimun requirements and use rest of your points into soul grinders and maulerfiends. In 1850 games you will have all 8 war machine slots in use. It is not top tier but quite strong against many armies. Cyclopia cabal with dogs is best build using kdk units(lord and dogs) some renegade action might work using heralds in artillery for blood tithe scoring. Daemons are stronger than kdk with srtefacts and psyker buffings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4674875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfast Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I know we are not top tier (and thats fine with me) but it sounds intersting that we can have some nasty things up our sleeves anyway :) I´m looking forward to start over and see what I can do with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4675654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeresyBeliever Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I have been playing a Renegades purge list with KDK 'allies' lately which has been doing well in our local area. Renegades Command squad (Warlord) Medusa x 2 separate units Heavy Mortars x 3 separate units Wyvern 3 x rapier laser destroyers KDK Blood Host Slaughter cult - Herald on Jugger, Possessed, Bloodletters, Berz in rhino Gore pack - 2 x unit of bikes each with one melta gun, 3 x units of 5 hounds D-Thirster That lot puts me at 1750 points with 100 spare to do whatever with the common 1850 point bench mark. I sometimes use plague zombies to bubble wrap my artillery because of cheap fearless nature Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4675782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Any units of bloodletters, you should pay the 5 points to upgrade the leader IMO. This way when they die in combat you get another Blood point. 5 of them is 25 points for another 95 points of bloodletters (when summoning in you can have the leader and a banner if you have the models) You only lose when you are getting shot at but just put them at the back. I'm pretty sure that was FAQ'd.. the only way you get a point for having a Character that's part of a unit (Champion.. what have you) is if he is in a challenge. Otherwise he just counts as part of the unit when he is killed and you only receive 1 Bloodtithe point.. for the unit, only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Any units of bloodletters, you should pay the 5 points to upgrade the leader IMO. This way when they die in combat you get another Blood point. 5 of them is 25 points for another 95 points of bloodletters (when summoning in you can have the leader and a banner if you have the models) You only lose when you are getting shot at but just put them at the back. I'm pretty sure that was FAQ'd.. the only way you get a point for having a Character that's part of a unit (Champion.. what have you) is if he is in a challenge. Otherwise he just counts as part of the unit when he is killed and you only receive 1 Bloodtithe point.. for the unit, only. Yeah, and for those who want to see it (in case they wanted to challenge that): http://i.imgur.com/ZcnS2VQ.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I'm a simple man with a chainaxe. This confuses me a bit. So my KDK Lord is in a squad of Hounds. All the hounds die to a basilisk shot and the Lord is dead too. I'm assuming 2 Bloodtithes are awarded to me, correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Yar. (Yes.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 One for the unit, one for the death of an independent character. Seems right. Different to the same thing happening to a unit of cultists with a champion - when they get pie plate squashed they generate 1 point only, the champion may be a character but he wasn't in a challenge and he is not a separate unit, right? In other news I have lots of Khorne Blood bound from starting AoS with my lad and I have a few CSMs lying around. I was thinking of picking up a start collecting khorne daemons box to bother bolster the Blood bound and make a small KdK army. I could use some of the warriors and reavers as cultists! Good idea or not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Could look very cool and utilize models you already have. Win-win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4681747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 So is there anyway of making the Blood thirsters viable as an option??? im thinking of starting a small daemonkin force sicne Ive decide on keeping my armies/ games around 1-1.5K so more fun and I really like blood thirsters as they seem like an awesome centre piece model plus I like converfting Khorne stuff almost as much as Nurgle. Can Blood thirsters work or is it a fools hope (dont like the D one more the other ones) they are so cool looking it'd be a shame not to have one Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I would have thought people pay points to field d-thirsters and summon the normal one for free. I don't think people use the third one much? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 At least the cheapest bloodthirster will get to swing at initiative. It's just against good invuln saves and FNP which everything has these days, not many wounds get dealt. Against your average opponent with a reasonable list ai'd say he's decent, if pricy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Well I'm seriously considering launching my secret project upon the ITC world. We have a Highlander event coming up (which I've mentioned here) and the downside of playing so many armies is I'm juggling a million ideas at once, and usually playtesting 1 or 2 of them a week. Since I can't bring Guilliman (he hasn't been out 30 days) and it's ITC Highlander that means my Thousand Sons (which I've enjoyed immensely) really don't work in that environment. I've worked very hard on them but they are severerly handicapped in Highlander. Something like a vanilla Gladius Demi would smoke what I've been playtesting. I've had GREAT games with Thousand Sons pulling off some crazy wins, but stuff like Cawl and Celestine are just crazy good. I can't see it working and I feel like the model count is a serious issue. Speaking of model count... what would get around that Thousand Sons issue?Hmmm... would it be my KDK?!?! So I've made a Highlander list, but the problem is I NEVER use the Charnel Cohort, however in 1500 points I can actually make it fit in my typical Bloodhost/Slaughter Cult detachment. Being that I don't use Charnel Cohort, there are things I simply don't have put together/painted. The biggest of those issues being: 4 Bloodcrushers! Other bad news: I have to somehow paint 8 Zerkers and 8 CSM... .all in 2 weeks. The good news is I have lots of my Forgeworld Zerkers but they are only about half done. The 8 CSM are a bigger question mark. I don't want to use my goofy looking stuff in a tournament but I do have the goofy looking stuff I did for Red Corsairs that -might- stand in. Ugh. Anyway, I'm very close to coming to a deadline on this. However it is my goal to get these guys ready. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 How's this sound for a 1K blood host Slaughter Cult Bloodthirster of unfettered fury 8 possessed (hey I just like possessed likewise with Beserkers) 8 Beserkers (champ with Melta bombs) 8 blood letters (blood Reaper) 2 chaos spawn (seperate units) War engine Maulerfiend I have excatly 40pts left over but don't know what else I should use it for, probably bad idea taking the blood thirster but it seems like a cool monster to field and at 1K have a flying monstrous creature sounds pretty good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think it looks fun and playable. Honestly you could just throw the points at a Rhino. Or give your Zerker champ an Axe of Khorne. I often do this just because when/if he makes it to CC he can still go beast mode with Rage/furious charge/etc running. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4682846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think it looks fun and playable. Honestly you could just throw the points at a Rhino. Or give your Zerker champ an Axe of Khorne. I often do this just because when/if he makes it to CC he can still go beast mode with Rage/furious charge/etc running. Sucks the Possessed champ cant have an axe, Do Rhinos give blood tilthe points being dedicated transports??? A while back there were heaps of damonkin battle reports I dont suppose anyone has a link??? they seem like good research material and if I remember correctly they were all wriiten out reports not actul videos as not a fan of video ones Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4683425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luthorhuss Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 rhinos will generate blood tithe. every unit with bftbg special rule will do this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4683533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If one looks around a bit Prot has some great battle reports, and YouTube and MiniWargaming have plenty between them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4684351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 If one looks around a bit Prot has some great battle reports, and YouTube and MiniWargaming have plenty between them. Yes and miniwargaming bought my Ultramarines so you can see well over 2000 points of Prot's Ultra's plus a great KDK army in there ! I am trying to grind through some bloodcrushers for a Highlander game. Still have to make a final decision but the KDK certainly play a little easier in this format over my Thousand Sons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4684465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Probably not KDK related but do you reckon the bloodthirster are compatible with the Skarbrand kit??? Even though we can't actually take him my local store is selling him for half price at the moment (or some strange reason though probably because barely anyone buys any GW stuff so they probably have to try sell it somehow :D) so was highly tempted picking him up and kit bashing him into a normal blood thirster since he is such an awesome model so having him rock the whip and axe combo would be cool :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4688899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Pretty sure Skarbrand uses a sprue from the bloodthirster kit, so they're compatible in some ways. I wish I could get him at half price! I bought Roboute Guilliman on the cheap to use as a trophy on someone's base. Skarbrand would look great holding his decapitated head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306021-blood-for-the-blood-god-daemonkin-community/page/39/#findComment-4689183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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