Kilofix Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 · Hidden by Dusktiger, April 23, 2015 - to avoid offtopic antagonizing Hidden by Dusktiger, April 23, 2015 - to avoid offtopic antagonizing For the measuring part, the book says measure from the base if it has one, if a vehicle, measure from the nearest hull. For vehicle weapons, from the gun barrel, which includes all walkers. ...and it IS a vehicle AND a walker. Two of three. Bases need not apply, I guess. ;) Maybe this could be mentioned in the Starting Out 4: Onager Dunecrawler thread. ahh, no; don't get it twisted; if its supplied with a base, you're supposed to use it and measure distance from the base, or in the case of blast templates, measure over the area of the base. it's if its a vehicle model without a base, then measure from the hull. Also, all walkers bar the defilers, soul grinders, and triarch stalkers, which all have posable limbs, come on a base and are meant to measure from it. Technically though, the Onager also has posable legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4017894
Brother Amarel Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 So that still leaves my question in the air; do we need to mount the Onager on the base it comes with or not? Because if not, I could save basing time and lower the footprint of the model for blast/template attacks. It would also be easier for moving it through terrain! edit: Another thought; vehicles measure from the gun barrel if they don't have a base, right? That would extend the range of the Neutron Laser, too! You measure from the gun barrel (and work out LoS along the barrel) regardless of whether the Vehicle is on a base or not (this is specifically called out). I'll be mounting my Onagers on the base they're supplied with, personally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4017981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hey, anyone has a good guide to do the Graia colour scheme? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Laertes Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hey, anyone has a good guide to do the FW Graia colour scheme? try emailing them to ask it. They are really kind, and when I asked them about the colour scheme they used on the Legio Fureans titans, they had no problems in providing it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger9gamer Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hey, anyone has a good guide to do the FW Graia colour scheme? try emailing them to ask it. They are really kind, and when I asked them about the colour scheme they used on the Legio Fureans titans, they had no problems in providing it. Whoops seen my error. I mean the world in the codex, not the actual company. my bad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The way I generally measure for based walkers is a hybrid of approaches. Shooting attacks are measured from the muzzles, while movement and charging are measured from the base. No one has voiced a problem with this yet - it seems to be our best approximation of GW's rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I don't think there are any good images of Graia's colors. Imperial Armor 1 depicts IG vehicles from Graia but they are painted in IG regiment colors not Mechanicum Graia colors. Space Marine (the video game) just has everything (like the Titan) in dark grey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Hopefully someone will create an image file of the symbols for the various Forge Worlds found in the Skitarii codex. I'd like to make my own transfers for my army but I can't seem to find pics of the Forge World symbols (beyond Mars and Lucius) anywhere online. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Carlson793 designs custom transfer sheets - you should send him a PM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Almost completed my first unit today, I didn't do them all blue, just the shoulder pads and the inside of the robes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorbored Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Working on the color scheme for my doods. I wanted to get away from the red, so I went with blue robes, silver armor, and orange accents, with dark gray and black as separation. http://i.imgur.com/FbCZtDh.jpg Hope you guys like! It's not done, there are a few details (plus the base) that need to be complete, but here's what a Vanguard looks like with blue robes! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 That's how I was going to do mine, but I chickened out and went with a scheme similar to my knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Amarel Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 The way I generally measure for based walkers is a hybrid of approaches. Shooting attacks are measured from the muzzles, while movement and charging are measured from the base. No one has voiced a problem with this yet - it seems to be our best approximation of GW's rules. This is exactly what the rules state you should do. I don't understand why it's considered an "approximation of GW's rules". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I agree with you, but there are others in my meta still hung up on "barrel or base" for some reason. I was being diplomatic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 I am working with the Ryza scheme, I think I'm going to do black accents with cream bodysuits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 SELECTED: DENTRICA I OF XII ENGAGE NEURAL CONGRESS – WIRELESS AUTOSHUNT ACQUIRED UPLOADING… + A SKITARII BY ANY OTHER COLOUR... + I've cracked open my first box of skitarii and I'm wavering on painting in the classic Mars style. Something makes me want to go for something... else. Gold, silver, bronze metallic for sure. Deeper colors maybe. Browns? Maybe a steam punk vibe? Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkyn Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Working on the color scheme for my doods. I wanted to get away from the red, so I went with blue robes, silver armor, and orange accents, with dark gray and black as separation. http://i.imgur.com/FbCZtDh.jpg Hope you guys like! It's not done, there are a few details (plus the base) that need to be complete, but here's what a Vanguard looks like with blue robes! That's almost exactly what I was going to do. Now I must do my metals brass! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I am working with the Ryza scheme, I think I'm going to do black accents with cream bodysuits. Sounds like a good plan. Thousands of Skitarii... it begs for there to be some variety between macrolades. I've been wondering if a lighter colour on the body suits may be better. It seems a lot of detail gets lost under those long coats. Sicarians maybe not so much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I am working with the Ryza scheme, I think I'm going to do black accents with cream bodysuits. Sounds like a good plan. Thousands of Skitarii... it begs for there to be some variety between macrolades. I've been wondering if a lighter colour on the body suits may be better. It seems a lot of detail gets lost under those long coats. Sicarians maybe not so much. Also the personal variants according to their magos commander and lord Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 SELECTED: DENTRICA I OF XII ENGAGE NEURAL CONGRESS – WIRELESS AUTOSHUNT ACQUIRED UPLOADING… + A SKITARII BY ANY OTHER COLOUR... + I've cracked open my first box of skitarii and I'm wavering on painting in the classic Mars style. Something makes me want to go for something... else. Gold, silver, bronze metallic for sure. Deeper colors maybe. Browns? Maybe a steam punk vibe? Thoughts? The green looks great, and I haven't seen that scheme before. But then again, I'm partial to green. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 @ Rashbold...yes the green does really look nice.... would really contrast well with the red earth...speaking of which...i cannot decide on the base rim colour!!? can i trouble the frater's here for some feedback the left rim(not finished)is scorched brown(rhinox?) and the right rim is XV-88. im not sure which to do.... Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Egregorius Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Green, with a grey basing scheme Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ordo Machinum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 SELECTED: DENTRICA II OF XIIENGAGE NEURAL CONGRESS – WIRELESS AUTOSHUNT ACQUIREDUPLOADING… + TECHNOLOGY IN TUNE WITH NATURE + CommodusXIII: At first I thought of going almost Greek toga-style white with marbled bases shiny golds and silvers etc. Then I thought...mmm, no. Metalica would be my choice if I did white. Red, orange and darker reds and blacks were also covered by the codex. I didn't think I could do blue as well. Yellow would lure me away with thoughts of rebuilding my Imperial Fists army. Green seemed a nice unifying colour. I can still play with the metallic for rank or unit types. Mithril: I have to remember the green will most likely be darker than my image above (illuminated screens can be so deceiving, Omnissiah forgive me). As for your base trim, I think the XV-88 appears a nicer contrast. You're going classic Mars, right? The scorched brown may give it a dark bottom, medium red base to light body. Not sure how the eye would take that. The XV-88 being lighter in colour makes the base a contrasting middle to the model. I'm not an artist, so my colour theory isn't the best. marshall Egregorius: Grey basing sounds nice. Almost a lunar vibe. My macrolade can't always be fighting on Mars. Another reason I was considering a non-red theme is that my Skitarii tend to be assigned to some areas where the Mechanicum isn't directly acknowledging their official involvement. If they are discovered someplace they shouldn't be then the Mechanicum will deny their being authorized to be there, etc etc. Why should the Inquisition have all the fun with covert ops. Some fellow Mechanicum may not be aware of their status and questions of loyalty could inadvertently run into conflict with fellow Mechanicum Magos (in case I run against any other Skitarii army). Thanks for the input. It is certainly helping me finalize some plans. R. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 SELECTED: DENTRICA II OF XII ENGAGE NEURAL CONGRESS – WIRELESS AUTOSHUNT ACQUIRED UPLOADING… + TECHNOLOGY IN TUNE WITH NATURE + CommodusXIII: At first I thought of going almost Greek toga-style white with marbled bases shiny golds and silvers etc. Then I thought...mmm, no. Metalica would be my choice if I did white. Red, orange and darker reds and blacks were also covered by the codex. I didn't think I could do blue as well. Yellow would lure me away with thoughts of rebuilding my Imperial Fists army. Green seemed a nice unifying colour. I can still play with the metallic for rank or unit types. Mithril: I have to remember the green will most likely be darker than my image above (illuminated screens can be so deceiving, Omnissiah forgive me). As for your base trim, I think the XV-88 appears a nicer contrast. You're going classic Mars, right? The scorched brown may give it a dark bottom, medium red base to light body. Not sure how the eye would take that. The XV-88 being lighter in colour makes the base a contrasting middle to the model. I'm not an artist, so my colour theory isn't the best. marshall Egregorius: Grey basing sounds nice. Almost a lunar vibe. My macrolade can't always be fighting on Mars. Another reason I was considering a non-red theme is that my Skitarii tend to be assigned to some areas where the Mechanicum isn't directly acknowledging their official involvement. If they are discovered someplace they shouldn't be then the Mechanicum will deny their being authorized to be there, etc etc. Why should the Inquisition have all the fun with covert ops. Some fellow Mechanicum may not be aware of their status and questions of loyalty could inadvertently run into conflict with fellow Mechanicum Magos (in case I run against any other Skitarii army). Thanks for the input. It is certainly helping me finalize some plans. R. @Rashbold- my scheme is sorta mars'ish based...the Rangers are red robed with bone underskirt(tehee ) whilst the vanguard are bone/white robe with red underskirt. it's so i can instantly tell them apart on the table and it makes a good contrast. Its going to be a bit of fluff for me : the Rangers are hunters/scouts on mars so need a small amount of Camo(the red robe probably blending into the mars surroundings quite well i'd imagine)so they are all about locating/collecting data on the enemy without being detected, whereas the Vanguard are my shock troop(stormtroopers if you will) so i Want them to be seen as an intimidation effect of "Oh No! the vanguard are here,we're about to get Hit". My infiltrators are going to be done in a Mars red type digital camo...well thats my plan i think i'll go with the XV-88 that was my first choice too.... Your scheme could be brighter ie if you used Moot green,that green is pretty vibrant,actually it would be Very Dr Doom now that i think of it the grey base may blend in with the silver armor a bit too much perhaps...unless...what rim were you thinking of? @marshal Egregorious - i think the cream bodysuit will improve it,i tried ryza first but the orange didn't mesh well with me,which is a pity as i really wanted to do orange! @doctorbored the plasma orange is really striking,im loving it ! and the blue is very regal, look fwd to seeing a whole unit of these,base colours? cheers Mithril Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 @ Rashbold...yes the green does really look nice.... would really contrast well with the red earth...speaking of which...i cannot decide on the base rim colour!!? can i trouble the frater's here for some feedback the left rim(not finished)is scorched brown(rhinox?) and the right rim is XV-88. im not sure which to do.... Mithril if you go with Doombull Brown, it'll give you a nice shade in between those 2 choices. it's what i used on mine and its fairly nice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306073-skitarii-colourschemes/page/4/#findComment-4018734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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