Flint13 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Any of you guys had any luck running destroyers?? They seem nice and fluffy but a tooled up unit of ten is near on 500pts!! Anyone find them worth it?? Cheers "Worth it" as in for their points return? Not often Worth it as in getting to field an irradiated bunch of desperado John Woo marines wielding poison napalm? Every time Plaguecaster 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Hopefully the new book will make them a little less steep and in which case destroyers will become a staple for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Ive used Destroyers a fair few times as IF (bs5 yo) and their most useful have been against non-marine 30k armies. Worth the 400+ point? Ehhh not really. You end up having to build an army around them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I played my mates blood angels. Turn 1 I melted all ten of them. Only fired one out of three phosphex thudd guns lol. He almost cried. They seem like could be pretty fun tho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I mean, he was Close Enough to a 36" Barrage Weapon with Poisoned 3+ and Ap3. Thats his own fault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well we played long side deployment so was in range from set up. Lol. He did have first go. Tried to hide behind a landraider hahaha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) Too bad Barrage doesn't care about LoS. Should've used that 12" Jump Pack move (they had JPs...right?) to get out of range. +++But, getting back to the Death Guard... Edited June 15, 2016 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Yes they did. So destroyers. Fluffy. Rad, phosphex=win then haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I would only take a Singular Phosphex bomb on them in all honesty. It just makes the Sergeant that much more expensive and painful to lose when you finally do. Doesn't help that they're +10 Each. If they were +5 because only a few consuls can take them, it'd definitely be better. The Rad Missiles are definitely the main selling point being one of the few sources of Fleshbane available to a Legion Army and either being Heavy 36" or Assault 18" thanks to the Suspensor Web is a nice bonus. With 2 Bolt Pistols, they're essentially a squad of Rapid Fire Bolters who can Charge after shooting. They also have Rad Grenades, another big plus. +++ Essentially, you always want to Move -> Shoot -> Charge with them due to how fragile they are. But, because of how fragile they are, you want to avoid anything with massed Ap3 or better AKA any Legion Special Unit, pretty much, unless you're dogpiling with another squad for the Rad Grenade Bonus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I am so looking forward to using my Phosphex quad launchers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1000 Sons Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 The phosphex quad launchers will bring a tear to your eye. I had one round where 3 launchers landed 43 hits, the smile on my face just wouldn't go away. Being able to have quad launchers, leviathan, Medusa all firing phosphex is such a satisfying feeling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Its a good thing that the Phosphex Mortars require a Siege Breaker as a tax and a further +20 to purchase because Hot Damn, they are nasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4420831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Loved my unit of 3 of them. My hss with volkite culverin were nasty as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4421021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hopefully the new book will make them a little less steep and in which case destroyers will become a staple for me. I'll drink to that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4421659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Hopefully the new book will make them a little less steep and in which case destroyers will become a staple for me. I'll drink to that! A cup of Mortarion's famous Barbaran BrewTM I hope! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4422094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoBoy88 Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 A Siege beaker in a squad of Autocannons spotting for a unit of 3 Phosphex quad launchers. Sound fluffy and Competetive? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4422258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 Sure, even Missile Launchers are fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4422547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 I'd try that myself if I thought I could get away with those aftermarket dinky little weapon platforms to proxy quad launcher rapiers. Anyone ran DG in a Shattered Legion list with some ideas to float around about our specific positives etc? Just looking at ways I can have good reason to add Pollux to my collection or paint up some non-DG colours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4422562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) I'd try that myself if I thought I could get away with those aftermarket dinky little weapon platforms to proxy quad launcher rapiers. Anyone ran DG in a Shattered Legion list with some ideas to float around about our specific positives etc? Just looking at ways I can have good reason to add Pollux to my collection or paint up some non-DG colours. If playing loyalist, DG can be amazing due to the versatility of Morturg. Infiltrate seige tyrants or justerin and cast endurance on them? Further Khr Valhen (sp?) of the Iron Warriors makes a fantastic HQ choice. However, for those who want to be traitor or want to run a different HQ, having deathshroud as a HQ really alliviates one of the major drawbacks of using shattered legions - the additinal HQ tax for each faction you want to bring in. So in this case, I think DG work excellent in shattered legion forces, but probably as the allied force Edited June 17, 2016 by disease infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4422580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 This could be a terrible idea, or a rather good one, not sure as dont have books with me and would proabably be rather expensive... That said... How would a command squad full of jetbikers weilding power scythes fare as a dedicated close combat unit? Worth it for awesomness alone, but does it have any viable crunch when compared to other CC units? Straight off the bat you have speed, toughness decent save and lots of AP2 attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4430105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Similar offensive output to deathshroud, but less survivability. More mobility though. But a lot more expensive, even taking into account you could get the Deathshroud a pod and maybe even be cheaper? Plus they are rare in that you could take only 4 and still fit a terminator character with them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4430137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Can't take Deathshroud power scythes on Command Squads - Characters only. Command Squads have Chosen Warriors, but that only means they can issue and accept Challenges as if they had the Character type. Try some normal Bikes instead. They don't gain a 2nd redundant 2+ save and they're much cheaper. You're also not wasting a 36" range weapon on a CC unit. Perfect delivery system for your Praetor. Enigami 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4430398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Can't take Deathshroud power scythes on Command Squads - Characters only. Command Squads have Chosen Warriors, but that only means they can issue and accept Challenges as if they had the Character type. Try some normal Bikes instead. They don't gain a 2nd redundant 2+ save and they're much cheaper. You're also not wasting a 36" range weapon on a CC unit. Perfect delivery system for your Praetor. ^ oops - plus that of course! If you do it in the reaping they get MTC too and rad nades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4430695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
disease Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 My mistake, i thought it was anyone who could take a power weapon! Back to the drawing board... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4430856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 Remind me, which book do I find Quad Mortars with Phosphex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306169-hh10-the-sons-of-barbarus-a-death-guard-tactica-thread/page/24/#findComment-4438225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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