Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hi! As a few of you might know, I outlined a vague plan to make a diorama that features a Marine from each of the Legions. My original plan was to have a generic (i.e. non character) Marine painted up to represent each Legion, with II and XI represented by a model painted black. Since buying the Iron Warrior and Alpha Legion FW exclusive models at Salute last weekend, I figured that I might expand on this somewhat and have a model for each Legion, but use named characters instead. I realise that in the case of the Iron Warriors I could model Dantioch instead (after reading about him in unremembered Empire, I quite like him ), but I think I'll make a list that includes Marines who sided with the Traitors (so Abaddon over Torgaddon for example). So, here is the list as I can see it. Please bear in mind that I'm still waaaaaay behind in reading the HH books. I - Zahariel II - Blank* III - Lucius IV - Nârik Dreygur (I must admit that I haven't a clue who he is) V - Don't know enough about 30k White Scars VI - Bjorn the Fellhanded VII - Pollux VIII - Sevatar IX - Nassir Amit X - Eeron Kleve XI - Blank* XII - Khârn XIII - Aeonid Thiel XIV - Ignatius Grulgor XV - Ahzek Ahriman XVI - Abaddon XVII - Argal Tal XVIII - Don't know enough about 30k Salamanders XIX - Don't know enough about 30k Raven Guard XX - Autilon Skorr (Haven't got a clue who he is either!) * Blank or, with their permission ask to use a model of choice from one of the II and XI projects that members have created here on the B+C Any suggestions? The above are names that I have respect for (such as Pollux, Argel Tal etc, etc ) or those that I know well enough (or can have a hope in hell's chance of kitbashing well enough that most members can recognise who they are The ones in bold are ones that are fixed (unless someone has a compelling argument for another character ) Thanks for any help you can give Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 No Sigismund :O! Then again, Polux is a pretty solid choice so I'm ok with that. For AL: -Dynat: The model looks Cold, Calculating and due to his multiple weapons and assortment of gear, looks equipped to deal with any situation -RG: Alvarex Maun. Hes pretty solid though is a FW character more than anything. Unlike Sharrowkyn... I'm cool with everybody else on the list; we really need more WS materiel... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 No Sigismund ! Then again, Polux is a pretty solid choice so I'm ok with that. For AL: -Dynat: The model looks Cold, Calculating and due to his multiple weapons and assortment of gear, looks equipped to deal with any situation -RG: Alvarex Maun. Hes pretty solid though is a FW character more than anything. Unlike Sharrowkyn... I'm cool with everybody else on the list; we really need more WS materiel... I did consider Sigismund, but no model and I'm from the RT Era originally, so Crimson Fists all the way I've never heard of Dynat, I'll have to look him up. To be honest, it kinda wierds me out that the Alpha Legion have named characters, what with the whole "I am Alpharius" thing going on Alvarex Maun - is there a particular book he's in for reference? It is a pity about the White Scars - I haven't read any of the books that feature them yet either... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 For the XVIIIth, you're looking at either Artellus Numeon (First Captain of the Pyre Guard, Vulkan's honour guard), Nomus Rhy'tan (one of the chapter's first chaplains, told by Vulkan not to accompany the Legion to Isstvan V), or Cassian Vaughn (commander of the XVIIIth before Vulkan, original occupant of the Iron Dragon Dreadnought chassis - Bray'arth Ashmantle being the current occupant). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 For the XVIIIth, you're looking at either Artellus Numeon (First Captain of the Pyre Guard, Vulkan's honour guard), Nomus Rhy'tan (one of the chapter's first chaplains, told by Vulkan not to accompany the Legion to Isstvan V), or Cassian Vaughn (commander of the XVIIIth before Vulkan, original occupant of the Iron Dragon Dreadnought chassis - Bray'arth Ashmantle being the current occupant). I'll have to look them up Cassian Vaughn sounds interesting, but it'll have to be before he gets interred. Each model will be in either PA or TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 To be honest, it kinda wierds me out that the Alpha Legion have named characters, what with the whole "I am Alpharius" thing going on Could you imagine if all of the special characters were named Alpharius? "Ok, just a heads up, I'm using Alpharius in this game." "Which one is he?" *gestures grandly at army* "All of them." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 To be honest, it kinda wierds me out that the Alpha Legion have named characters, what with the whole "I am Alpharius" thing going on Could you imagine if all of the special characters were named Alpharius? "Ok, just a heads up, I'm using Alpharius in this game." "Which one is he?" *gestures grandly at army* "All of them." But that's part of the fun surely? I get the point though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'll have to look them up Cassian Vaughn sounds interesting, but it'll have to be before he gets interred. Each model will be in either PA or TDA For pre-Dread Vaughn, you'd most likely not have a Salamander, but a Saturnyne Ram (Vulkan had a bad session of 'One Night In Heaven' in high school, so as soon as he saw the Ram, he changed the Legion's name... ) http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/f/f6/XVIII_Legionary_2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 For Maun and Dynat, they're FW Characters that were introduced in their Respective Book(s); Extermination in this Case. Meaning outside of the FW Book, I doubt you'll find mention of them. Of the two, only Dynat currently has a model out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Would'nt Bjorn be the major Space Wolves character? I mean, you have two books at least that deal with him (Prospero Burns and Scars). The 30K White Scars have Shiban (a Khan from the Brotherhood of the Storm) and Targutai Yesugei (the Chief Stormseer and one of the most powerful Astartes Psykers). From the Blood Angels, while Amit is cool, you could pick up either Raldoron (their First Captain) or Azkaellon (the commander of the Sanguinary Guard). Ran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 For first legion, I'd say Corswain or Astelan (the latter has a lot of art on him). I was going to recommend Alajos, but I wanted to make a sweet sweet conversion of him with his vox grill mouth...soo he's mine you hear! Mine mine MINE!!! *pulls out sharpened piece of resin sprue with a crazy look" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 How the heck did I forgot Bjorn?! When I wake up later, I'll change the first post Depthcharge - I'll bear the first two in mind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4024967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranwulf Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Well, Shiban does it too. But honestly I agree with Yesugei, since he is a Stormseer that did not obey the Edict of Nikea because the Scars were like: 'Screw it, I will make my own Librarius with shamans and thunder!' Ran Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Well, Shiban does it too. But honestly I agree with Yesugei, since he is a Stormseer that did not obey the Edict of Nikea because the Scars were like: 'Screw it, I will make my own Librarius with shamans and thunder!' Ran Exactly The thousand sons wanted to prove they were right The wolves lied The raven guard did it behind peoples back The scars just carried on, nit to prove anyone wrong, not because they felt they had a get out clause, just because it was what they did. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Well, Shiban does it too. But honestly I agree with Yesugei, since he is a Stormseer that did not obey the Edict of Nikea because the Scars were like: 'Screw it, I will make my own Librarius with shamans and thunder!' Ran Exactly The thousand sons wanted to prove they were right The wolves lied The raven guard did it behind peoples back The scars just carried on, nit to prove anyone wrong, not because they felt they had a get out clause, just because it was what they did. The Raven Guard didn't keep their librarians post nikea, they mostly became Moritats I believe. I'm sure Corax was one of those who spoke out against Librarains. Post Massacre they made a come back, but sort of had to seeing as the legion had been reduced to around 4000. For the XIXth, if you want to use a BL character, theres Sharrowkyn who is a bit of a Mary Sue character, but he is the ultra Raven Guard, top swordsman, top sniper, can wraith slip. He's currently fighting with the Iron Hands. His list of achievements include shooting Fulgrim in the head, killing Lucius, and more recently, starring down Alpharius, who choose not to fight him! There's also Branne Nev. He is left on Deliverance during the Massacre, and comes to rescue Corax and the survivors. He leads the Raptors, the new RG, who are mostly weirgeld, but isn't one himself. Then there's Agapito Nev, who commands the Talons. He seems almost like Corax second in command, but he tends to suffer from traitor rage due to the Massacre, and looks down on those who didn't fight on Isstvan V. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak1508 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 For Maun and Dynat, they're FW Characters that were introduced in their Respective Book(s); Extermination in this Case. Meaning outside of the FW Book, I doubt you'll find mention of them. Of the two, only Dynat currently has a model out. I just looked at the FW HH book 3 Extermination and the only AL named characters I found are Alpharius, Armyllus Dynat and Exodus. So, who are Autilon Skorr and Maun? Thank you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spu00sed Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Well, Shiban does it too. But honestly I agree with Yesugei, since he is a Stormseer that did not obey the Edict of Nikea because the Scars were like: 'Screw it, I will make my own Librarius with shamans and thunder!' Ran Exactly The thousand sons wanted to prove they were right The wolves lied The raven guard did it behind peoples back The scars just carried on, nit to prove anyone wrong, not because they felt they had a get out clause, just because it was what they did. The Raven Guard didn't keep their librarians post nikea, they mostly became Moritats I believe. I'm sure Corax was one of those who spoke out against Librarains. Post Massacre they made a come back, but sort of had to seeing as the legion had been reduced to around 4000. For the XIXth, if you want to use a BL character, theres Sharrowkyn who is a bit of a Mary Sue character, but he is the ultra Raven Guard, top swordsman, top sniper, can wraith slip. He's currently fighting with the Iron Hands. His list of achievements include shooting Fulgrim in the head, killing Lucius, and more recently, starring down Alpharius, who choose not to fight him! There's also Branne Nev. He is left on Deliverance during the Massacre, and comes to rescue Corax and the survivors. He leads the Raptors, the new RG, who are mostly weirgeld, but isn't one himself. Then there's Agapito Nev, who commands the Talons. He seems almost like Corax second in command, but he tends to suffer from traitor rage due to the Massacre, and looks down on those who didn't fight on Isstvan V. Deliverance lost had them using librarians behind the custodes back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 For Maun and Dynat, they're FW Characters that were introduced in their Respective Book(s); Extermination in this Case. Meaning outside of the FW Book, I doubt you'll find mention of them. Of the two, only Dynat currently has a model out. I just looked at the FW HH book 3 Extermination and the only AL named characters I found are Alpharius, Armyllus Dynat and Exodus. So, who are Autilon Skorr and Maun? Thank you! Alvarex Maun is a Raven Guard Character so look for him in their Section. Autilon Skorr is the 'Consul Delegatus' Event Exclusive Miniature (the one with the Scroll and Power Axe) for this year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I think Yesugei represents white scars the best. He enjoys what he does and ignores others, not due to arrogance or Comte,or, just because it is their way. Well, Shiban does it too. But honestly I agree with Yesugei, since he is a Stormseer that did not obey the Edict of Nikea because the Scars were like: 'Screw it, I will make my own Librarius with shamans and thunder!' Ran Exactly The thousand sons wanted to prove they were right The wolves lied The raven guard did it behind peoples back The scars just carried on, nit to prove anyone wrong, not because they felt they had a get out clause, just because it was what they did. The Raven Guard didn't keep their librarians post nikea, they mostly became Moritats I believe. I'm sure Corax was one of those who spoke out against Librarains. Post Massacre they made a come back, but sort of had to seeing as the legion had been reduced to around 4000. For the XIXth, if you want to use a BL character, theres Sharrowkyn who is a bit of a Mary Sue character, but he is the ultra Raven Guard, top swordsman, top sniper, can wraith slip. He's currently fighting with the Iron Hands. His list of achievements include shooting Fulgrim in the head, killing Lucius, and more recently, starring down Alpharius, who choose not to fight him! There's also Branne Nev. He is left on Deliverance during the Massacre, and comes to rescue Corax and the survivors. He leads the Raptors, the new RG, who are mostly weirgeld, but isn't one himself. Then there's Agapito Nev, who commands the Talons. He seems almost like Corax second in command, but he tends to suffer from traitor rage due to the Massacre, and looks down on those who didn't fight on Isstvan V. Deliverance lost had them using librarians behind the custodes back. I've blocked that novel out..... But that was post Massacre wasn't it, I don't think a legion so shattered could ignore such a weapon, nor could they piss off the custodes while on Terra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I - ZaharielCorswain II - Blank* III - LuciusJulius Kaesoron IV - Nârik Dreygur V - Don't know enough about 30k White ScarsQin Xia VI - Bjorn the FellhandedLord Gunn VII - Pollux VIII - Sevatar IX - Nassir AmitRaldoran X - Eeron KleveGabriel Santar XI - Blank* XII - Khârn XIII - Aeonid ThielMarius Gage XIV - Ignatius Grulgor XV - Ahzek Ahriman XVI - Abaddon XVII - Argal Tal XVIII - Don't know enough about 30k SalamandersArtellus Numeon XIX - Don't know enough about 30k Raven GuardAlvarex Maun XX - Autilon Skorr (Haven't got a clue who he is either!) Just my thoughts on the matter, take it or leave it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 Looks like I have some reading to do! I got Censure (which I read last night) and Mark of Calth (which I'm reading now) last night, so I'm slowly filling in a few gaps. If there are any other books that might help, then please let me know! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Second legion...Sentinel Athrawes :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Second legion...Sentinel Athrawes :P Second that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted April 30, 2015 Author Share Posted April 30, 2015 As I said in my first post, assuming I have the creators blessing, I'd like to do a DIY II and XI model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306872-legions-i-xx-who-do-you-think-represents-them-best/#findComment-4025430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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