Slave to Darkness Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 However the new vows that are to be made after the release of a new Codex are supposed to consist of units as described and as “priced” in the new Codex. It is possible that some units may disappear from the new Codex. Well, tough. You cannot go back to the old Codex even if your chosen unit does not exist in the new one. How would this effect templars if dropped from the dex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 You would keep using the old codex for the vows already entered. The new codex would be used for new vows. I doubt there would be no mention of the Black Templars in a Marine codex but even if so you could use them until a Black Templar codex came out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 The Templars will continue as they are now... It's not like there is a Codex BTs right now... They take their units form the Codex SMs and they will continue to do so in the future. If in the new Codex SMs they have removed the BT-specific units then, they just won't be an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teetengee Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The Templars will continue as they are now... It's not like there is a Codex BTs right now... They take their units form the Codex SMs and they will continue to do so in the future. If in the new Codex SMs they have removed the BT-specific units then, they just won't be an option. Which would mean group neophytes into scout squads and use captains for emp champs as far as I can tell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Go, go Titans, automata, cyborgs, trans-humans, lobotomized servitors, servo skulls, cyber cherubs, brains floating in amniotic vats, Machine Spirits and even Heretek possessed engines! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulJam Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 @captain semper top job as usual much clearer to following without the subfactions, interesting as that may be. are those grey knights folk telling you about their completions then mind wiping you before you write them down ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I am so proud of the BA Forum! We are going down swinging brethren! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 When the GKs will start reporting completions, their completion rate will jump overnight! Question is, how will the re-vowing rate go from there? ;) I am so proud of the BA Forum! We are going down swinging brethren! You are rightly proud! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus b'Raass Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hahaha everyone is like "what's up with Chaos this year?" Well, my deluded cousins, it is this: we are planning a Black Crusade in 2016!! When the next Chaos Codex comes out! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA UNtill then, we're putting in just enough points to make everyone gaming in the 40K present on their toes. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hahaha everyone is like "what's up with Chaos this year?" Well, my deluded cousins, it is this: we are planning a Black Crusade in 2016!! When the next Chaos Codex comes out! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA UNtill then, we're putting in just enough points to make everyone gaming in the 40K present on their toes. Actually, yeah. What is up with Chaos this year? You guys are struggling to maintain second place, and I'm seeing a big secondary effort for larger and larger re-vows. This doesn't sound a lot like 'biding our time' to me. It sounds like you lot are clutching at straws. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hahaha everyone is like "what's up with Chaos this year?" Well, my deluded cousins, it is this: we are planning a Black Crusade in 2016!! When the next Chaos Codex comes out! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA UNtill then, we're putting in just enough points to make everyone gaming in the 40K present on their toes. ;) :P Actually, yeah. What is up with Chaos this year? You guys are struggling to maintain second place, and I'm seeing a big secondary effort for larger and larger re-vows. This doesn't sound a lot like 'biding our time' to me. It sounds like you lot are clutching at straws. :P Some of us have temporarily diversified to give others false hope just for this year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronotonic Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Yeah what they said Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 We call it the Long War for a reason. On a more personal note, I had a setback with the Scorpion when the paint fell off, and then con season hit and works been mental because of it. Hopefully back into the swing of things a touch this week. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all. I will. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all. I will. :P But aren't we all :) After all 40k is 38000 years of history from our time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all. I will. :PBut aren't we all :) After all 40k is 38000 years of history from our time Not sure that classes as history ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Reverse-History! That's totally worth a degree! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4063990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all. You actually raise an interesting point and I kind of agree actually. Although in principle the same could be argued for the loyalists, the Legions covered so far are not among the traditional 40k popular a of the Big 4 (although the UMs got some coverage now). I see HH as creating a new market if you like for Raven Guard, Iron Hands - even Salamanders (with all all the specialist units and minis they moved from being a colour scheme in the 40k context to a fully supported faction). On the other hand, the Traitors were pretty popular already within the 40k context. Now, with all the new toys, I can see a more meaningful migration from 40k Chaos to HH than say DA, BA or SW players... But their time will come soon enough... Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In this thread since the last update, I'm reading that not only are the forces of Chaos are fickle ,but that they are throwing this year's competition as they have no honour. ... ... Who knew? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forté Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In this thread since the last update, I'm reading that not only are the forces of Chaos are fickle ,but that they are throwing this year's competition as they have no honour. ... ... Who knew? ;) Yep we're throwing it. I've already completed my first two vows, which for me is amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Cool, I'll take a look :) The throwing comment is a tongue in cheek remark at Augustus' comment :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewChristlieb Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In this thread since the last update, I'm reading that not only are the forces of Chaos are fickle ,but that they are throwing this year's competition as they have no honour. ... ... Who knew? Yep we're throwing it. I've already completed my first two vows, which for me is amazing. Good stuff Forte! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I won't mention that an increase in history lovers has ment a decrease in Chaos. I won't mention it at all.You actually raise an interesting point and I kind of agree actually. Although in principle the same could be argued for the loyalists, the Legions covered so far are not among the traditional 40k popular a of the Big 4 (although the UMs got some coverage now). I see HH as creating a new market if you like for Raven Guard, Iron Hands - even Salamanders (with all all the specialist units and minis they moved from being a colour scheme in the 40k context to a fully supported faction). On the other hand, the Traitors were pretty popular already within the 40k context. Now, with all the new toys, I can see a more meaningful migration from 40k Chaos to HH than say DA, BA or SW players... But their time will come soon enough... Thoughts? But if people were happy with the 40k lore they would simply utilize the new kit as upgrades rather than abandoning the lore for 30k. I feel the depth and detail were given by the FW team is the reason for converts. I got into 40k for the lore and got obsessed with 30k for the individual attention to lore. But each to their own Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathspectersgt7 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 You mean like this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/306909-e-tenebrae-lux-iv/page/9/#findComment-4064646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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