Jolemai Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Thanks, but there's only one Codex I'm going to use to play Blood Angels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Assault marines have a rule that allow them to contest even against units with objective secured. ...... but but..... I'm not saying nothing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 So does the rest of our army. It's known as the Shooting Phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 What exactly are the rules for an Evisorator anyway ? I've never bothered to learn them since they are so rare atm! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrunTeufel Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 What exactly are the rules for an Evisorator anyway ? I've never bothered to learn them since they are so rare atm! X2 str, ap4, rending at initiative. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It's a chainfist that has Two-handed instead of Specialist Weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
knife&fork Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Those are some really interesting and much needed changes, hope it's true. If veterans (including terminators) are up to 2 wounds as rumored you suddenly have fixed a lot of issues with marines in general. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 2 wound vanguard would be awesome. Give them a real reason to be used over DC. Although surely then SG should be 2... or 3? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I like Blood Angels being divergent. BTW - FAQs seem to be released each MAY. Guess what month it is.... I still want: 2-wound terminators Rending Chainswords Ability for all Pintle Mounted weapons being able to overwatch Ability for Librarians to get Iron halos Unlimited range Whirlwinds Torrent for Flamestorm Cannons on Landraider Redeemers These would fix the game balance, and really make my games more fun... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Not one for wishlisting, but I've had that hope for pintle mounted weapons for ever. Naturally, none of the above will ever happen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4062980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yeah so dem assault squad rules. Got to be honest, it stung when they took them away as troops, now this is just salt......and our codex cover is an ASM. lol gimme a break..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4063077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yeah. Cant help but have sour grapes over th "rumors". Oh well, we're still in okay shape i guess. Not like we havent been here before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4063088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rezin70 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yeah. Cant help but have sour grapes over th "rumors". Oh well, we're still in okay shape i guess. Not like we havent been here before. Yep, thats true, we just accept it, battered wife syndrome lol. Im being rediculous tho. Im still hoping for some errata or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4063127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 crikey- i dont want to hope. I dont, dont, dont want to hope....but those rumours sound so good :( and so applicable and easily transferrable to BA :( Really hope it happens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4063197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4063427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 So, GW may be up to the biggest tease/lead-on in the history of the game...but..... https://youtu.be/3mxq4YNZonwIf you've seen that vid, you'll see the upgrade sprues modeled with the Devs. Also, you see BA assault marines. I'm wondering if that means access to new stuff too?? It's a very specific decision to include the new upgrades for SW, DA and BA. That signals something to me. Again, i'm looking for it, and i want to believe.....so....maybe leading myself into disappointment- but, it really looks like theyre gearing up towards a more inclusive dex? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4064991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I think they are Mort! Otherwise why would they create the new BA products at this time? I think that we might get some rules in the book that say "this is a troops choice in Codex BA. If it is taken there, the unit gains Furious Charge" At least that's the simple way! Our chapter tactic is literally Furious charge so it's easy to print that in the main book too. It would create some weird discrepancies where we could take our normal Tac Squad with heavy flamers, or the vanilla with some different weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Don't know about you guys, but if i had a choice between: "wait for your next update" or "refer to C: Adeptus Astartes" ....I'll be in that referring like there's no tomorrow camp. Happily. Gladly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sockwithaticket Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I'm really not fussed about anything except having Eviscerators made available to our sergeants. In an ideal world they'd be made available to all sergeants, veterans and characters, but that would be way too beneficent and show a level of joined up thinking that, frankly, GW haven't shown the ability to exhibit for years.Relevant changes to our codex could be done in an FAQ that would take all of a few hours (being super generous on the timescale ) to knock out. So it probably won't happen...By the by, my friends nickname me Eeyore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I hope GW gives me a reason to buy the marine codex. I don't usually buy codexes I don't play, but if I get access to some of the changes in the Marine codex I'll pick it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meniscusmike Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Don't know about you guys, but if i had a choice between: "wait for your next update" or "refer to C: Adeptus Astartes" ....I'll be in that referring like there's no tomorrow camp. Happily. Gladly. It's happened before so it still COULD happen! I guy can dream right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We'll know for certain with the Dark Angels release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4065197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 .... I dont see it happening. Not in the codex anyway. A very very slim maybe we will get access if they include rules in the white dwarf or with the new kits themselves. Hope leads to disappointment Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4066072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
meniscusmike Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We get access to the new command tanks and the new upgrade set with this release so there is a little hope! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4066294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Prepare for the worst, hope for the best, is relevant here I think. D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308340-wishful-thinking-new-sm-dex/page/2/#findComment-4066327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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