helterskelter Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Culverin are dangerous. Best range, 4 shots a piece plus deflagarate. See ref: depth charge dead spartan/anthrawes librarian heavy squad combo Fangbanger 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Culverin are dangerous. Best range, 4 shots a piece plus deflagarate. See ref: depth charge dead spartan/anthrawes librarian heavy squad combo Give them IF Rules (or Siege Breaker) for Tank Hunters and anything Av12 and below is going to have a bad time - add in the Above Libby Combo for malediction and you can re-roll for more Rends! Edited July 1, 2015 by Slipstreams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sure..if you get lucky with your psychic powers and have 550 odd points spare! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Sure..if you get lucky with your psychic powers and have 550 odd points spare! I usually play at 3-5k So in my case, I sure do :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 With the heavy slots being so hotly contended, do you find them worthwhile compared to other options for those slots? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I'd put the points into the culverin even at 2k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 With the heavy slots being so hotly contended, do you find them worthwhile compared to other options for those slots? My most contested slot is Elites. I usually have 1-2 Heavy Support slots open. The stuff I'd bring for HS can usually be taken as a Dedicated Transport Anyways (Land Raiders) and HS is usually Deredeo + Sicaran and/or Achilles so I can usually fit a Culverin Squad in. The only time HS is full is when I'm playing 4k+ and need to shove in as many points dense units as possible. Namely that 300 Point Brick o' love known as the Achilles especially since it can take a serious beating and keep going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 But...but...Spartans....! Basically my current units look like the following: Khan 2 x 15 tacos exchange bolters for axe in a Spartan and apoth each 5 x butchers in landy Venator Adding in the following: 2 x kheres contemptors 10 x plasma support squad in rhino And I have access to a sicaran from my wolves for friendly games So obviously with the Spartans and sicarans my heavys are very competitive however I won't nesercerily run all of them all of the time so was thinking the culverin for a bit of variety That being said if I did want to run close to the whole lot, I could quite easily fit in another support squad. Being a close combat WE armour, the Spartans are kind of a big deal. Are the calives worth a looking in my situation being a kind of middle ground? I figure if I'm running contemptors that have that fire range covered but open to adding in calivers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 The Advantage I have is the Spartan usually being a Dedicated as are most of the Vehicles I bring in my lists. Calivers are in a weird place. They're Heavy 2 and 30" so vs a Charger, your trading Mobility for Added Range but, the Culverin does that better having 2 more shots and 15" extra. To me, they're the "poor mans" culverin. HS slots full? Take Calivers. Fangbanger 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 with that 30 range I take it foot slogging is fine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 with that 30 range I take it foot slogging is fine? Heavy 2. They wont be moving if you want them to shoot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yes I realise, I just meant there's no need for a transport I take it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Yes I realise, I just meant there's no need for a transport I take it Eh, you could give them a Rhino and use it as LoS blocking if needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Never mind... Thanks for all the useful tips! A wealth of great knowledge as always Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4110338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I spy, with my little eye, something beginning with ~CHOOOM~ Yep, that's a volkite sponson alright :) Hyaenidae, Warhead01, Olis and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4114161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 *Imagines the Columbiad mounted on that chassis* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4114486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I was imagining the columbiad much bigger ("proper" ordinatus scale, not Ordinatus Minorus)... But it's still mega cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4114515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) I'm here to claim two kills with my Terror Squad and their love for choom! First was a game saturday where they killed my opponent's Forgelord (HQ): Those fools in the Atramentar had barely even slowed the IVth's command squad and that brute waving around his servo arm before being hacked apart; the least they could have done was kill the remainder of his bodyguard. Regardless of their incompetence, the prize was now ours for the taking, though that bastard Sevetar wanted it for himself; that line about 'duty' wasn't fooling anyone. Still, if we didn't hurry he'd have beaten us to it; as we rounded the corner of the ruined predator we saw the Forgelord tinkering away on one servos or another while his bodyguard advanced without him, perhaps the 1st Company was useful for something after all. "Volkites set to maximum", ordered Headsman Sathad. The prize was ours. The second was a game sunday where the same squad killed my opponent's drop sentinels (Elites): We had timed our attack well, those cowering mortals would be at the mercy of the night for another three hours; more than enough time to break them. Our initial strike had already sent them reeling; our own squad had already destroyed one of their flimsy scout walkers, sending the rest limping away, and we could hear the unique screams of humans being crushed together by graviton pulses. However, the mortals hadn't seemed to have have fully appreciated their fate as the walkers continued to harass us with heavy bolter fire, the rounds wasted on our heavy mkIII plate. "Stop toying with them and secure your objective", came the First Captain's voice across the vox ,"we have another wave of enemy aircraft closing in on our position". His message was interrupted by Torun incinerating another walker, the death ray igniting it's fuel reserves causing it to explode in a burst of flame and shrapnel, killing the pilot of the last walker and igniting more of their comrades lurking in the marsh. The objectives didn't matter; fear was its own reward. Edited July 6, 2015 by SkimaskMohawk Olis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4115573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 Good to see another brother claim some kills - and it's even better to see the tokens in use. Well done SkimaskMohawk. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4115729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 (edited) So Guys, I have a 1500 pt list here, Which legion would this best suit? (SoH, IW or IF) I was thinking the Tactical Support squads use mk2 armour (As they've had both their weaponry and armour a long time) mk4 for the vets, and mk3 for the Heavy support. What do you guys think? Maximum Choom (1495pts) HQ (140pts)Legion Praetor (140pts)Artificer Armour, Combat Shield, Thunder Hammer, Volkite Charger Master of the LegionPride of the Legion Troops (1015pts)Legion Tactical Support Squad (225pts)Legion Sergeant, 9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Calivers Legion Tactical Support Squad (225pts)Legion Sergeant, 9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Calivers Legion Tactical Support Squad (165pts)Legion Sergeant, 6x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Calivers Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (200pts)Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 4x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Outflank, Volkite Charger, 3x Volkite Serpenta Legion Veteran SergeantPower Weapon, Volkite Serpenta Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (200pts)Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 4x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Outflank, Volkite Charger, 3x Volkite Serpenta Legion Veteran SergeantPower Weapon, Volkite Serpenta Heavy Support (340pts)Legion Heavy Support Squad (340pts)9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Culverin Legion SergeantAugury Scanner Edited July 6, 2015 by Altis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4115733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlson793 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (A quick WIP. Couple Contemptor Plasma Cannons arrived yesterday, along with a second Styrix. And double apologies, but A] weather in Louisville has been terrible the past month or so, so the picture is bad even after Photoshop adjustments and B] I just couldn't resist the 'lore' once I had some chopping and gluing done...) =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ The Ratling king bellowed for his weapon and turned towards the armored giant. “For that arrogance, I shall see you dead.” As he strode towards Cam’bell, a flash of light and a thrumming sound like their lasrifles, though deeper, more ominous, accompanied the king’s sword exploding into shards. All eyes turned to the armored warrior. “Yeah. Alright, you Primative Abhumans, listen up! See these?” he said, raising his handless arms above his head, the tip of the left one showing a fading yellow-orange glow and vaporous haze. “These… are my CHOOMSTICKS! Contemptor Pattern Volkite Culverins. Mars’ top of the line. You can find these in the Legiones Astartes Armoury. That’s right, these sweet babies were made by the Forges of Mars. Costs about a hundred and nine lives. They’ve got ceramite casings, void forged steel, and hair triggers. That’s right. Buy far. Buy Mars. YOU GOT THAT?” The Ratling host shuddered, each nodding their agreement… Contemptor Plasma Cannon with Jetbike Volkite. Now that that's done, let's hope the weather improves so Mr. Ancient Grenn there can get the rest of his paint job. Twisty, Olis, Nakuth and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4120016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4120027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 StoneSentinels and Slips 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4120038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetsuokills Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 How could you guys forget about the Volkite Incinerator? This chest mounted weapon for the Ursarax is currently the only Volkite weapon that can also bring the choom in close combat. It has the same range as the Volkite serpenta but twice the choom and in close combat can be used to make a blast attack at Str 6, AP 2 with instant death! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4120340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 While a fair point, I give you, I do briefly mention the weapon under the Serpenta entry in the OP. Regardless, welcome to the club, brother - and if you intend to stay, why not grab yourself one of the nice shiny badges to put in your sig? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/12/#findComment-4120358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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