StoneSentinels Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So basically you are melting oncoming bullets into a ball of fast moving molten metal. Can't see that going badly wrong at all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I think it'd make more sense going back to Stofficus' Choomsday Cage (just without the ridiculous 2++ :P ) - make it useful in close combat but shooting is not really affected much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015   Is that mold line running down his left leg, or part of his armor? With the way it runs down the leg...Mould Line :x     Well of all the god damned... Argh. How is it that things only show when you take a picture of them?  It's okay, it's okay. It's fixable. Probably.   Sorry to be the bearer of mold line tidings, but the same thing of not seeing them until you post pics has happened to me several times. I know those feels. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Sorry to be the bearer of mold line tidings, but the same thing of not seeing them until you post pics has happened to me several times. I know those feels. Â It's okay. It's been caught early enough that it won't be a pita to fix. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisty Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I kind of imagine a Volkite grenade to be a quick burst of hundreds of smaller volkite beams (either in a chosen direction or all around it), rather than a conventional explosion. Similar to the "Chaos mine" from Code Geass:  http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/6-10-2015/9ah1Cb.gif  It would make a pretty cool alternative to the usual "thing that goes boom" concept most grenades go for. Why go boom when you can go CHOOM-CHOOM-CHOOM? Olis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Kage Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Â It's okay. It's been caught early enough that it won't be a pita to fix. Â Â Well then, keep calm and CHOOM! on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 little mini tanks with handlers petting them and encouraging them(that's how I see rapier platforms behaving, kind of like dogs I guess)  Thank you for this wonderful mental image, it's going to enhance my enjoyment of Imperial Armour XIII a lot.  Speaking of the lost and the damned, we've seen all kinds of weapons with... unsanctioned modifications... drawing on the forces of the immaterium; heavy bolters with malefic ammo, ectoplasma cannons, inferno bolts, baleflamers and so on. What do you suppose might be done to enhance the output of a volkite given, say, 10,000 years of unspeakable tech-heresy in a screaming hell vortex? Can you add that infernal edge to your deflagration? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Speaking of the lost and the damned, we've seen all kinds of weapons with... unsanctioned modifications... drawing on the forces of the immaterium; heavy bolters with malefic ammo, ectoplasma cannons, inferno bolts, baleflamers and so on. What do you suppose might be done to enhance the output of a volkite given, say, 10,000 years of unspeakable tech-heresy in a screaming hell vortex? Can you add that infernal edge to your deflagration?  In my minds eye I can see a Word Bearer, classically mutated (much like Rogue Trader era mutations) so that one arm (his right) has a Volkite weapon embedded into it. The baleful red light remains, but instead of those normal 'smoke-rings' Volkites emit when fired, I see a bestial face - still red and still encircling the beam like the 'smoke-rings' would - opening the jaws of it's mouth as the gun fires and keeps opening as the bestial face dissipates. All of this in the split second that crimson flash happens and a Volkite fires.  Or, how about heretek warp-craft? Bind a couple of (hundred) souls to the Volkite to power it, or perhaps tap into the warp itself, and embellish the gun with the bones of heroes/daemons/whatever. Add on a few runes and voila! :P Fire Golem, paz and marine7312000 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneSentinels Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Oh a soul blaze style weapon. A less powerful deflagrate impact but more of a lingering soul blaze to show the degradation of the technologies that fire the weapon but the incorporation of dark magiks make up for it? I like it! You could model it with a spirit host face from the nagash range? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4080999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 How can I Star away from this?! So I am chooming in an idea first ...  The Volkite Caliope  An overhead assembly of Volkite beamers which can be fired single or salvo. Oneshot. Powered from an extra generator. Mounted on an external rack over the vehicle body or turret.  With an extra carapace upgrade for titans!  Will doodle up some sketches along the line... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) [quote name="A Kvlt Ghost" post="4080860" timestamp="1433948461" Â Speaking of the lost and the damned, we've seen all kinds of weapons with... unsanctioned modifications... drawing on the forces of the immaterium; heavy bolters with malefic ammo, ectoplasma cannons, inferno bolts, baleflamers and so on. What do you suppose might be done to enhance the output of a volkite given, say, 10,000 years of unspeakable tech-heresy in a screaming hell vortex? Can you add that infernal edge to your deflagration? Â @A Kvlt Ghost - Well here's the rub. Yes they've been in the Eye for 10,000 years, but we all know that time passes slower, slowly or not at all in there. Your Choom-tastic guns may have relatively only had 100 years tops to fart around with the tech;-) Edited June 10, 2015 by Scion of Ferrus Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) @A Kvlt Ghost - Well here's the rub. Yes they've been in the Eye for 10,000 years, but we all know that time passes slower, slowly or not at all in there. Your Choom-tastic guns may have relatively only had 100 years tops to fart around with the tech;-) Â That's a possibility, yes, but remember time is fluid in the warp. Time dilates and time contracts. That 10,000 years could easily go the other way and an individual could experience dozens of thousands of years. Think of Horus in Vengeful Spirit, after his jaunt in the warp he comes back much more wizened and leathery than before, and yet moments had passed on our side, the material side of the 'gate'. Edited June 10, 2015 by Olis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Guys 10000 years who cares we have volkites now Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I have a confession. Â I don't believe in Choom. Â I watched Mars Attacks too many times, their blasters is pretty much how I imgaine Volkites to look and sound like. Â :P Â http://33.media.tumblr.com/e5f4b6d7429d87823b12be93ee26845e/tumblr_n4phigM31z1sz7asho10_400.gif Nakuth, Legio Draconis, infyrana and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostMalone Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I swear I heard one say boyakashar! As it fired Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 I have a confession. Â I don't believe in Choom. Â I watched Mars Attacks too many times, their blasters is pretty much how I imgaine Volkites to look and sound like. Â Â Each to their own, brother. To choom or not to choom, the Volkite remains undiminished. Some see red, some see blue. ;)Â Hyaenidae 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Nobody said Volkites were originally human in origin..... Â Â EDIT: And it is a Martian Death Ray, after all. :lol: Edited June 10, 2015 by Hyaenidae Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Are you suggesting that the imperial tech may be based on xeno tech. Cos that makes the magos in me sad.... StoneSentinels 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneSentinels Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The splazer!!!! The Spartan laser from halo 3. I knew the sound in my head came from something!! Wrrrrrr Choom! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Are you suggesting that the imperial tech may be based on xeno tech. Cos that makes the magos in me sad.... Â There's, like, a gazillion different things we've stolen or reverse-engineered from Xenos. The Mechanicum had whole sub-sects dedicated to researching forbidden tech, and even the Iron Warriors had a Lodge that was adherents to using xenos tech (and other nightmarish weapons) to fight humanities' enemies (the 'Burned Men'). Â This is mankind of the 30k era, we're talking about. 'what's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine' is our creed to the entire Universe. Â :P v6v77 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon2027 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015  Are you suggesting that the imperial tech may be based on xeno tech. Cos that makes the magos in me sad....   There's, like, a gazillion different things we've stolen or reverse-engineered from Xenos. The Mechanicum had whole sub-sects dedicated to researching forbidden tech, and even the Iron Warriors had a Lodge that was adherents to using xenos tech (and other nightmarish weapons) to fight humanities' enemies (the 'Burned Men'). This is mankind of the 30k era, we're talking about. 'what's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine' is our creed to the entire Universe.  :P Ok I'm looking in my Omnissiah User manual and can't see anything about xeno tech. I think you need to turn yourself in to the nearest Magos, he will remove your brain and replace it with a glorious man made machine. v6v77 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Iron Warrior, dude. Â The day we give a crap about what the Mechanicum thinks, is the day I dive into no-mans land in a body glove and a can opener. Â :P Adeptus-Alaska and Fire Golem 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilofix Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Both Stygies and Incaladion have significant interests in Xeno Tech. Â But back to Volkites: Castigator Tempest Warblade - actual Volkite tech or just Volkite'ish tech? I guess it isn't actually a laser.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) Both Stygies and Incaladion have significant interests in Xeno Tech.  But back to Volkites: Castigator Tempest Warblade - actual Volkite tech or just Volkite'ish tech? I guess it isn't actually a laser.... I am unsure as to what kind of laser volkites are.  If we look at what they can do on the table top  Higher strength than lasgun = more energy per photon of energy. Rules out light  Poor AP = unable to impart much kinetic force. Rules out exotic heavy matter (probably) aswell as Alpha particles (Helium ions)  Deflagrate = Needs to impart alot of energy into the target. Rules out gamma particles and all the flavours of neutrinos as they are too weakly interacting.  Based on that they are most likely beta+ particle BEAM WEAPONS. Also known as electron guns.  Note here: Laser is only usable when talking about the electromagnetic spectrum not particles.  Enough mass for AP5 (flak armour), higher energy per photon packet duebto increased mass and charge and when electrons hit any substance and decelerate the release bremstraulung (breaking radiation) in the form of microwaves. Sound like deflagrate to you?  Based on that you could (with 30k tech) curve a continous beam of electrons around a solid core using electomagnetic foces (edge of blade around the center) and thus have a choom sword.  Now thats done im back off the hide in my darkened room.  Behold the science of the volkites.  Note: Please feel free to disagree, havent flexed my particle phyics knowledge in months so may be abit rusty. Edited June 10, 2015 by v6v77 Skalpynock, Ironandforge and Iron Hands Fanatic 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Mmmh...particle accelerators. Â Is there anything they can't do? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/308805-martian-death-ray-club/page/6/#findComment-4081665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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