bluntblade Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Been thinking about the whole black arm for disgrace thing, and it's given me an idea for a Blackshield force. Suppose when the Secessionists break away, one Knyaz (maybe Asaev) rejects the move, seeing only the option of standing with or against the Imperium. In their rejection of Kozja's rule, his men adopt the sign of bastards and disgraced men, and set off into the void as the Shadow Hands. Doctor Perils 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 Been thinking about the whole black arm for disgrace thing, and it's given me an idea for a Blackshield force. Suppose when the Secessionists break away, one Knyaz (maybe Asaev) rejects the move, seeing only the option of standing with or against the Imperium. In their rejection of Kozja's rule, his men adopt the sign of bastards and disgraced men, and set off into the void as the Shadow Hands. Hadn't thought of it, but it's just so obvious. Had tried to rationalize loyalist Warbringers but it didn't work. Manicheans who reject the "third option", and making Asaev the hero he deserves to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 "Bastard, you call me, as it could hurt. I know what I am, and wear it as I do my armour. There is no honour in blind adherence to blood ties, and thus I free myself to do what is right." Skalpynock 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 Lo and behold, a pict-capture of Kozja Darzalas, early in the Great Crusade. bluntblade, simison and MikhalLeNoir 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Cool he looks ace. I wanted to give him a cloak over his left shoulder so that the army symbol is a bit hidden. What about his legs? Especially the crotch area. Does he have a loincloth? And I must add somehow the extra plates to his belly Edited August 21, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 26, 2016 Author Share Posted August 26, 2016 No loincloth, just a standard MkIV codpiece. Now, Tryzub Terminators. As of now, the only established thing is that they exist. So I'll try to define them a little more. First off, what kind of unit are they? From my observation there are two general types of unit:ones based on special rules, and others based on special wargear. I believe I've already well covered the Rules angle with the Streltsy and hypothetical Coordinator consul, so the Tryzub will be oriented around special pieces of wargear. Now, what wargear? I'd be inclined to give them Indomitus armour, but I happen to find that pattern ugly as sin. So Cataphractii it shall be. One idea I've toyed with the last 10 minutes is making them closer to actual Streltsy: bardiche and long gun. What's a long-range terminator gun? I'd be inclined to give them a variant of the Autocannon, with a longer barrel and no second gun. Or a lascannon which might be redundant with the PA streltsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Why not Tartaros for the Terminator armour? Or even Saturnine, if you wanted to get deep into the DIY. Edited August 27, 2016 by bluntblade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Oooh, how about something akin to the Chaos Dwarves Fireglaives? aka a big two-handed gun with a kind of axe bayonet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 MAKE IT SO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 One idea I've toyed with the last 10 minutes is making them closer to actual Streltsy: bardiche and long gun. What's a long-range terminator gun? I'd be inclined to give them a variant of the Autocannon, with a longer barrel and no second gun. Or a lascannon which might be redundant with the PA streltsy. Oooh, how about something akin to the Chaos Dwarves Fireglaives? aka a big two-handed gun with a kind of axe bayonet ? I like these ideas, I say combine the two and give them a Guardian Spear-esque hybrid weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 A Guardian Spear is a gun on a glaive. This will be a blade on a gun. What kind of gun, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Personally I'd say go with an autocannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomus Sardauk Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 A Guardian Spear is a gun on a glaive. This will be a blade on a gun. What kind of gun, though? I meant a ranged/Melee hybrid weapon in general, not specifically exactly like a GS, it was just the first example that came to mind. What you have in mind is more akin to Maugan Ra's Maugetar, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 A Guardian Spear is a gun on a glaive. This will be a blade on a gun. What kind of gun, though?I meant a ranged/Melee hybrid weapon in general, not specifically exactly like a GS, it was just the first example that came to mind. What you have in mind is more akin to Maugan Ra's Maugetar, right? Which IMO is probably one of the coolest weapons ever, so please? A Bardishe underslung on an autocannon sounds amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 Moving home at the moment, but I'll get a sketch of that done during the next week. The mental image is just too powerful to let pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Excited. What are your thoughts on the armour now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 What about Tartaros? If you've still got a cc component, might as well allow sweeping advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 I suggested it in the last page, but there's less room on it for bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 But you can make it bling. Just lock on the chaptermaster of the minotaurs, asterion moloch. With a bit green stuff you have great opportunities and aren't the phoenix terminators also tartaros? And they bling. Team Tartaros yay!!! Cathr....damn...can't even spell it!!! Nay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ah, but you can't bling out the little hanging off bits like you can with Cataphracti... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 But you have more free space to make ornaments which resembles kozjas armor^^ and instead of the hanging things you could go for a half cloak overlapping one arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Hey, I'm just messing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share Posted August 28, 2016 One theme I don't play enough with the Warbringers is that they don't care for the most technologically-advanced stuff as much as they do with wargear that has a history. Cataphractii was the Terminator armour in main use when Kozja reformed the legion in 871, and since then the Tryzub keep the same suits, or at least elements of the very first ones. By comparison, Tartaros was put in use in, say, 930, giving it a century of active service by the DoR, when Tryzubs will have existed for 172 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) And why does kozja wear mk4? Wouldn't be thrn mk2 or 3 be more fitting? Of course he wears primarch armor which can be anything Edited August 28, 2016 by MikhalLeNoir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted September 21, 2016 Author Share Posted September 21, 2016 So, read all the recent talk on Custodes, and my mind went running. The White Guard Created in the closing days of the Strelian Unity wars, the White Guard represents the pinnacle of Kozja Darzalas' biotechnical skill. Initially designed as a gift to his king, they would swear fealty to him on his crowning. Gene-augmented to levels unrivalled on Strela, they would only ever be surpassed with the coming of the Emperor and his Astartes. After taking command of his Legion, Darzalas would keep the White Guard as his main honor guard formation, aa a constant reminder of his own skill, whereas the Warbringers were the product of his father's craft. Some would point at this as a sign of hypocrisy from the Primarch who advocated Astartes superiority, others as yet another example of his devious experiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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