Doctor Perils Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Hi, some of these variants and vehicles seem pretty nice, but I'm having trouble picturing them in my head. Do you think that it would be possible to provide sketches and/or text descriptions of the vehicles that aren't variants of official vehicles ? I think this could be pretty useful to anybody reading these rules. examples of vehicles that could use a description in my opinion : AO108's Trakan Squig's Zbruchs and Constrictor/Boa LSI can't picture how the transport bay can be a separate option, but I could see it being there as a base, and then offering to put a pair of independent weapons there as an option - I'm sort of thinking like how you see door weapons on the Hewies (?) in Vietnam war. Oh, I could also see a kind of "weapon" option: constrictor cables, that immobilise any super-heavy walker or gargantuan creature if you manage to go all the way round it with an equipped LS, like Star Wars Speeders on Hoth http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png ) Sigismund229's Minotaur assault ship (a more precise description is needed, not just the position of the many many weapons) Grifftofer's Jocasta Grav-Tank Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4160092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I believe that this is the original incarnation of the Jocasta: http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1405/69/1405691800423.jpg And here is an image from the Collected Visions book (I believe):http://www.warseer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=184461&d=1388616100 As I remember this was also used to demonstrate the Vehicle Design Rules in White Dwarf, way back in 3rd Ed (No.252). Hope the images give you a better idea of what it is supposed to look like. Edit: I have some vague ideas to maybe build a prototype of this from a pair of land speeders and an old tau devilfish, not quite sure how yet though. Edited August 31, 2015 by Grifftofer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4160103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Ooooh, the deodorant bottle was called the Jocasta ? http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4160113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Officially I don't believe so. But I believe that when the Jocasta grav-vehicle was mentioned in Betrayal (source: Lexicanum) it has been assumed that this was the basis of the idea. Even if it isn't then it makes for a good name for a vehicle that hasn't been seen yet http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png Edited August 31, 2015 by Grifftofer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4160134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Squig Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) The Zbruch Linebreaker is sorta a cross between a hellhound and a predator, and the Constrictor is a land speeder with a space in the back for either another emplaced weapon or for marines to be transported. I like the idea of constrictor cables, I'll cook something up - maybe like how the reaver jet bikes used to work. Edited August 31, 2015 by Big Bad Squig Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4160201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Christ why am I late to every thread lately... No real ideas as of yet, aside from wanting to try and implement more walkers. This is just my bookmark post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4161482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Had a thought. What are we going to call the Leman Russ tanks? They are the back bone of the Imperial Army. And I'm painting one in my legion colors so.. ideas anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 D'aerrd-class? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) We could just leave them as Leman Russes, and have future Imperial propaganda sweep it under the rug that Russ was just a man or general whom found an STC. Edit: while the honor would be absolutely awesome. I'm not sure I can afford it, I'd have to go out and buy at least s dozen for my Bears haha. Edited September 3, 2015 by Chief Captain Redd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 We could just leave them as Leman Russes, and have future Imperial propaganda sweep it under the rug that Russ was just a man or general whom found an STC. Edit: while the honor would be absolutely awesome. I'm not sure I can afford it, I'd have to go out and buy at least s dozen for my Bears haha. Isn't that what Leman Russ was really at the beginning, Rogue Trader Era ? Also, you can't really sweep him under the rug, he's the IInd Primarch http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/huh.png Finally, I think Daer'dd has already got quite a few things to his name. Why don't we let the other smith primarch, or the only siege primarch, shine a bit for once ? (or as you say, have anybody else discover it... Think of an Ol' Person battle tank ? indestructible http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Yeah, but he's the II primarch of the now expunged II legion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share Posted September 4, 2015 Yeah him and Robute both were. It's why I suggested it. And I agree with it not needing be named after Primarch, or if it is maybe Niklaas? He's our defense master and the other great smith. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 How's about Tritton. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Humm, I have to admit I'm not fond of "Triton", that would more likely evoke a lighter tank, and an amphibious one (but that could just be me being weird). It could probably be an amphibious version of the Salamander though ? If you don't want it to be Niklaas, could it be the Alexandros ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4163791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Alright following on the mythical creature theme for 40k tanks Nemean Main Battle Tank Or Calydon Main Battle Tank Or for a departure Terran Solar Main Battle Tank Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4164045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 I like the Solar suggestion, but what about the Solar Imperator MBT? I think it has a lovely ring for the Tank that will become basically the backbone of the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4164055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Well, in general terms, its been noted in the FW books that anything originating from Earth was known as the 'Sol Militaris' Pattern (ie RT Era Heavy Weapons by FW). So as a Name it could be used. Ie Sol Militaris Main Battle Tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4164076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Forgot I posted this first draft so I took it down for the newer iteration down below. Edited October 20, 2015 by Chief Captain Redd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4183391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 This was the first thing to pop into my brain when I read about the Walkrhino: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Tactical_Enforcer :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4184119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphariusOmegon108 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Triarios assault spear 165pts fast attack for legion lists and mechanicum tahgmata Bs3 F14 S12 R12 HP3 Unit type: Vehicle Wargear: Three twin linked mauler cannons flare shield auxillary drive machine spirit transport capacity: 12 models, assault ramps on each side and on on the front So its basically a souped up Triarios, but with less transport capacity and more guns. Fast attack makes it more limited to take, so toning down its power a bit. Very strong on the front, but vulnerable on the sides. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4188878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) These are two vehicles I started dreaming up awhile ago (obviously just rules for the grav rhino), they're meant to be used by most legions. I wanted to see what everyone thought. Also I have no idea what actually name these. Grav Attack Assault Rhino: Built in the forges of Terra herself these antigravity transports saw vast use by the Astartes during the end days of the Unification Wars and the start of the Great Crusades, as the legions quickly grew in size the demand for Grav Rhinos out weighed the supply leading to far less general use amongst the legions. Points 125 BS:4 F:11 S:11 R:10 HP:3 Unit Type: Vehicle(Tank, Skimmer, Fast, Transport) Wargear: Two Combi-Bolters, Havoc Launcher. Frag Assault Launchers, Spotlight, Smoke Launchers. Special Rules:Assault Vehicle, Power of the Machine Spirit. Transport Capacity: Ten Models Fire Points: Top hatch Access Points: One on each side of the hull, rear, and bottom. Options: May exchange it's Combi-Bolters for two Combi-Weapons for +15 points, two twins linked Volkite Chargers for +15 points, or two twin linked plasma guns for +25 points. May take up to two Hunter Killer missiles for +10 points each, may take Armoured Ceramite for +25 points. Grizzly All Terrain Attack Vehicle: Built for terrain unsuited for typical vehicles, the Grizzly was first developed by Primarch Daer'dd Niimkiikaa shortly after being reunited with his legion. It's development was born from necessity as the Iron Bears often found themselves fighting in dense forest and swamp land. It's designs were quickly given to most legions along with several dozen Daer'dd had built for each legion. Points 215 points WS:4 BS:4 STR: 6 F:13 S:12 R:11 HP:3 I:4 A:2 Unit Type: Vehicle(Walker) Wargear: two hull mounted Plasma Blasters, Turret Mounted Kheres Assault Cannon system, Iron Jaw, Spotlight, Smoke Launchers. Special Rules:Power of the Machine Spirit, Enhanced Ferromagnetic Rites, Move Through Cover. Transport Capacity: None Fire Points: None Access Points: None Options: May exchange turret mounted Kheres Assault Cannon System for Accelerator Autocannon System for +25 points, may exchange it's two plasma Blasters for two twin linked Volkite Chargers for free. It may also take a Havoc Launcher for +10 points and up to two Hunter Killer missiles for +10 points each. Iron Jaw: a heavily toothed Demi-dozer blade with several chain blades mounted underneath. The Iron Jaw is meant to clear paths allowing other vehicles to move through. In addition to giving the Grizzly the "Move Through Cover" special rule it also has the following profile. Range: * STR: x2 AP:2 TYPE: melee, wrecker. Edited October 20, 2015 by Chief Captain Redd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4201992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 How fast is the rhino? I think that could fit into the tactics of the wardens to get heavy weapons behind enemy lines and attack from behind Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4201996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 12" while firing and an 18" Flat Out movement in the shooting phase. So if you don't want to fire 30". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4202039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I need to built that thing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4202316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Flying Rhinos? I am a Berserker and find this offensive. On a related note, I have a couple of ideas to chip in with when I get home. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/313034-insurrection-variants/page/2/#findComment-4202846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts