Sol_Invictus Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I haven't actually played any AOD games yet so comments and suggestions from those more experienced than I are appreciated. Ordo Reductor - Smash and Grab Matrix of Ruin FOC HQ Archmagos Reductor - 200 Cyber Familiar - 15 Conversion Beamer - 25 Troops Thallax Cohort - 285 +3 Thallax - 120 x2 Multi-Melta - 30 Thallax Cohort - 285 +3 Thallax - 120 x2 Multi-Melta - 30 Adsecularis Covenant - 60 Carapace Armor - 20 Frag Grenade - 5 Adescularis Covenant -35 Fast Attack Avenger Strike Fighter - 215 2X Two Kraken Penetrator missiles - 50 Battle Servitor Control - 15 Heavy Support Krios Battle Tank - 155 Pulsar-Fusil - 25 Hunter Killer Missile - 5 Thantatar Class Siege Automata - 300 Enhanced Targeting Array - 15 Paragon of Metal - 35 Ordo Reductor Artillery Tank Battery - 260 X2 Earth Shaker Cannon - 60 x2 Siege Plating - 30 Ordo Reductor Minotaur Battery - 205 My thinking is to rain death on my foes with the basilisks, Minotaur, and thanatar while the thallax have the mobility to seize objectives as needed. Not sure whether I'd start the thallax on the board or have them deepstrike in. Since tanks in the Matrix of Ruin FOC count as scoring while in the enemy deployment zone I'll be trying to push forward with them the whole time. The Avenger strike fighter can act as a tank hunter with the Kraken missiles as well as whittling down infantry with the avenger bolt cannon and should be able to help counter any enemy aircraft. I'll run the Archmagos with the tech-thralls with carapace armor to give him a meat shield. I'll run him behind/beside the basilisks or the Minotaur so he can shoot with his conversion beamer or grant them the benefits of his Master of Destruction rule. Not really sure about the other Adsecularis covenant. Probably run them in the rear to sit on objectives or sacrifice them to anything that gets behind my lines. My other thought is to simply merge them with the other covenant to make a 20 man blob for the Archmagos to run with? Thoughts and suggestions are appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Wow, I have got to get a way to look at that updated mechanicum list. The Ordo Reductor sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would get me to make the jump into 30k. I see where you're planning to use the secularis to hold objectives (or at least that seems to be your plan) but have you considered Rite of Pure Thought? It seems completely worth it on them since the last thing you want is for them to run. I get that it has negatives but that doesn't matter if your men pack up before the battle is over. Other than that, I dig the list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4201585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nziv Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I would see if you can trim 20 points somewhere and give the Thallax deep-strike, with 2Xmelta each unit you can put some serious hurt on vehicles if you show up at the right place and time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4201664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Thanks for the comments, guys. Wow, I have got to get a way to look at that updated mechanicum list. The Ordo Reductor sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would get me to make the jump into 30k. I see where you're planning to use the secularis to hold objectives (or at least that seems to be your plan) but have you considered Rite of Pure Thought? It seems completely worth it on them since the last thing you want is for them to run. I get that it has negatives but that doesn't matter if your men pack up before the battle is over. Other than that, I dig the list. @librisrouge - Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Rite of Pure Thought the more I think about it. Especially for the the squad I'm planning on running the Archmagos with. Do you think it's worth trying to keep the carapace armor on top of that? I would see if you can trim 20 points somewhere and give the Thallax deep-strike, with 2Xmelta each unit you can put some serious hurt on vehicles if you show up at the right place and time @nziv - I believe they already have deepstrike since they are jet pack infantry and you're right that will make them very useful for dropping in were needed. I'd thought about giving them the Destructor augment which would give them the tank hunters special rule but thought 300 pts for the unit was getting a bit high. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4202501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I would try to keep carapace on the squad that escorts the magos around. You don't want the enemy getting a charge and reducing them to component parts too quickly. The Thallax should have deep strike already. From what I understand, that upgrade is only for the benefit of zone mortalis since teleportation still works in that setup. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4202530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nziv Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Thanks for the comments, guys. Wow, I have got to get a way to look at that updated mechanicum list. The Ordo Reductor sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would get me to make the jump into 30k. I see where you're planning to use the secularis to hold objectives (or at least that seems to be your plan) but have you considered Rite of Pure Thought? It seems completely worth it on them since the last thing you want is for them to run. I get that it has negatives but that doesn't matter if your men pack up before the battle is over. Other than that, I dig the list. @librisrouge - Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Rite of Pure Thought the more I think about it. Especially for the the squad I'm planning on running the Archmagos with. Do you think it's worth trying to keep the carapace armor on top of that? I would see if you can trim 20 points somewhere and give the Thallax deep-strike, with 2Xmelta each unit you can put some serious hurt on vehicles if you show up at the right place and time @nziv - I believe they already have deepstrike since they are jet pack infantry and you're right that will make them very useful for dropping in were needed. I'd thought about giving them the Destructor augment which would give them the tank hunters special rule but thought 300 pts for the unit was getting a bit high. As I understand it, if you are playing them in 40k then yes, they get deepstrike by virtue of jet pack. If playing Horus Heresy then jetpacks do not inherently give deepstrike and it needs to be purchased Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4203895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakeisgod Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 2000 Point Ordo Reductor List HQ Archmagos Reductor Cyber Familiar Cortica Primus 3x Cyber-Occularis Conversion Beamer Abeyant Troops Thallax Cohort (9) 3x Photon Thruster Destructor Thallax Cohort (9) 3x Photon Thruster Destructor Castellax Battle Automata (2) 2x Enhanced Targeting Array Heavy Support Thanatar Enhanced Targeting Array Thanatar Enhanced Targeting Array Ive had success running this list against semi-competitive Iron Warriors, Iron Hands, Word Bearers, and Alpha Legion lists Your list seems balanced what is the meta at your gaming group? I see a lot of Rapier batteries and armored unitso i need the anti tank of the photons and thanatars to open the tanks and terminators. Are you playing Age of Darkness or the 2 from 40K rule book and i believe they have deep strike because jet pack infantry have it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4210886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Thanks for the comments, guys. Wow, I have got to get a way to look at that updated mechanicum list. The Ordo Reductor sounds like exactly the kind of thing that would get me to make the jump into 30k. I see where you're planning to use the secularis to hold objectives (or at least that seems to be your plan) but have you considered Rite of Pure Thought? It seems completely worth it on them since the last thing you want is for them to run. I get that it has negatives but that doesn't matter if your men pack up before the battle is over. Other than that, I dig the list. @librisrouge - Yeah, I'm leaning more towards the Rite of Pure Thought the more I think about it. Especially for the the squad I'm planning on running the Archmagos with. Do you think it's worth trying to keep the carapace armor on top of that? I would see if you can trim 20 points somewhere and give the Thallax deep-strike, with 2Xmelta each unit you can put some serious hurt on vehicles if you show up at the right place and time @nziv - I believe they already have deepstrike since they are jet pack infantry and you're right that will make them very useful for dropping in were needed. I'd thought about giving them the Destructor augment which would give them the tank hunters special rule but thought 300 pts for the unit was getting a bit high. As I understand it, if you are playing them in 40k then yes, they get deepstrike by virtue of jet pack. If playing Horus Heresy then jetpacks do not inherently give deepstrike and it needs to be purchased Hmm... That will change my strategy a bit if that's the case. Do you have page reference? 2000 Point Ordo Reductor List HQ Archmagos Reductor Cyber Familiar Cortica Primus 3x Cyber-Occularis Conversion Beamer Abeyant Troops Thallax Cohort (9) 3x Photon Thruster Destructor Thallax Cohort (9) 3x Photon Thruster Destructor Castellax Battle Automata (2) 2x Enhanced Targeting Array Heavy Support Thanatar Enhanced Targeting Array Thanatar Enhanced Targeting Array Ive had success running this list against semi-competitive Iron Warriors, Iron Hands, Word Bearers, and Alpha Legion lists Your list seems balanced what is the meta at your gaming group? I see a lot of Rapier batteries and armored unitso i need the anti tank of the photons and thanatars to open the tanks and terminators. Are you playing Age of Darkness or the 2 from 40K rule book and i believe they have deep strike because jet pack infantry have it. I like your list. Two Thanatars sounds amazing!. None of my gaming group are interested in 30k at this point so I'll either be looking for new peeps to play AOD with or playing against 40k lists. My biggest concern with my list is a distinct lack of any CC units. So if I can't shoot it dead I might be in trouble. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315020-2k-ordo-reductor/#findComment-4212383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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