Ahazra Redth Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 So I saw something the other day that, if it's true, will make me play blood angels immediately... Supposedly the Flesh Tearers Strike Force FOC lets you take an all walkers list with 2x Librarian dreadnoughts, Cassor the Dammned, 3x Furioso dreadnoughts and 6x Drop pods. What are the points on that? Is it possible to turn that into an all dread list? I don't care if it's competitive or not, I just love Dreads SO MUCH. So is it real, or was the guy who posted that smoking crack? Also, I suppose, could it be competitive? I'll be honest, if this is doable, I will write the fluff about a successor legion that was almost wiped out but turned into dreadnoughts just to run this list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 The Flesh Tearers Strike Force includes a compulsory 1xHQ, 1xTroop, and 1xFast Attack. Plus optional extra 3x Troops, Elites, and Heavy Support, and 5x additional Fast Attack. No Dreadnoughts I know of are Fast Attack, so I'm afraid your crack-smoking suspicion may be true... You could of course just go Unbound and field as many Dreads as you like! (I love them too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4208754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahazra Redth Posted October 27, 2015 Author Share Posted October 27, 2015 UGGGH! And here I was... Oh well. Guess you can't trust everything on the internet. What is the way I can fit the most dreads in an army you can think of? I'm kind of obsessed with Dreadnoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4208756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 No, technically I think that list is legal, isn't it? Flesh Tearers Strike Force HQ: 2 Librarian Dreadnoughts (fulfilling required 1) ELITES: 3 Furioso Dreadnoughts TROOPS: Cassor the Damned (fulfilling required 1) FAST ATTACK: 6 Drop Pods (fulfilling required 1) It's going to run you at least 1025 points, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4208908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Wait you're right! Sorry it was late when I read the OP and I thought you wanted Dreads in the FA slot but I see you said pods. So yeah, fill yer boots! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I already fielded once a seven dread list. It wrecked a necron decurion list pretty well. :) Kombiniertes Kontingent: Blood Angels*************** 2 HQ *************** Librarian Dreadnought, Meisterschaftsgrad 2, Sturmbolter+ Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 210 PunkteLibrarian Dreadnought, Sturmbolter+ Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 185 Punkte*************** 3 Elite *************** Furioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer+ Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 PunkteFurioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer+ Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 PunkteBlood Angels Contemptor Dreadnought, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon, Blutfaust, Sturmbolter - - - > 190 Punkte*************** 1 Standard *************** Cassor the Damned - - - > 140 Punkte*************** 2 Sturm *************** Drop Pod, Sturmbolter - - - > 35 PunkteDrop Pod, Sturmbolter - - - > 35 Punkte*************** 2 Unterstützung *************** Deredeo Dreadnought with Aiolos missile launcher - - - > 220 PunkteRelic Sicaran Battle Tank, 2 Heavy bolter sponsons - - - > 155 PunkteGesamtpunkte Blood Angels : 1500 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 You're right, this list looks fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 It does indeed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 When your opponent is fine with putting Cassor in an Lucius drop pod it´s getting even better. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Did you not have problems with hull point stripping by Gauss weapons against Necrons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Furioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer + Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte Furioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer + Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte Why not replace that storm bolter with a heavy flamer? Same total point costs and seems like it be more effective than a storm bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'd seriously consider dropping something to make all the pods deathwind ones. At the moment, its a no brainer whether to shoot the dreads or not, a S5 blast from each makes some tough decisions from your opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 UGGGH! And here I was... Oh well. Guess you can't trust everything on the internet. What is the way I can fit the most dreads in an army you can think of? I'm kind of obsessed with Dreadnoughts. Iron Hands out of the Space Marine dex, and in particular the Clan Raukaan supplement. You can take Dreads in both Elite and Heavy Support, and are 1-3 per slot. Potential for 18 Dreads in a normal CAD. Space Marine Dreads are also cheaper than their BA equivalents, and have more base attacks. In addition Iron Hands Dreads also get "It Will Not Die", with the Ironstone relic from Clan Raukaan boosting IWND to a 4+ in a 6" bubble (and repairs weapon destroyed and imbolised on a 6) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Foiled by C:SM once again! :D At least we have Libby Dreads.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The BA Contemptor is an Elites choice, the Deredeo and Leviathan are HS choices and the forthcoming Contemptor Cortus will be a FA choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-soul Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We also have the archangels FOC where you can field up to 6 dreadnoughts with only 1HQ in terminator armour (sadly you can't take libby-dread) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Why not the Baal Strike Force, not that red thirst helps, but 1 extra elite slot for another furioso? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 You'd have to take another Troops, and as there's only one (unique) Troops Dread, it wouldn't be an all-dread list anymore. And if you have no scruples about that, you could just take multiple instances of the FTSF detachment so have more Dreads than you can shake a stick at. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahazra Redth Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 *Sees post. Orders BA Codex and every Dreadnought GW has in stock.* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4209481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Furioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer + Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte Furioso-Cybot, Energiefaust & Schrapnell-Kanone, Sturmbolter, Magnagreifer + Landungskapsel, Sturmbolter -> 35 Pkt. - - - > 165 Punkte Why not replace that storm bolter with a heavy flamer? Same total point costs and seems like it be more effective than a storm bolter. Sorry i fast rebuild my origin list. forgott to change it into flamethrowers. it´s my fave setup since years. :) Did you not have problems with hull point stripping by Gauss weapons against Necrons? Sometimes the sixes are not showing. I losed 1-2 Hullpounts to Gauss. Either i was totally lucky or necrons got problems with such an amount of mech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4210222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 UGGGH! And here I was... Oh well. Guess you can't trust everything on the internet. What is the way I can fit the most dreads in an army you can think of? I'm kind of obsessed with Dreadnoughts. Iron Hands out of the Space Marine dex, and in particular the Clan Raukaan supplement. You can take Dreads in both Elite and Heavy Support, and are 1-3 per slot. Potential for 18 Dreads in a normal CAD. Space Marine Dreads are also cheaper than their BA equivalents, and have more base attacks. In addition Iron Hands Dreads also get "It Will Not Die", with the Ironstone relic from Clan Raukaan boosting IWND to a 4+ in a 6" bubble (and repairs weapon destroyed and imbolised on a 6) In 1850 Points it is difficult to squeese in 18 Dreads. You also dont have our sweet fragiosos wich get more output vs Marines and so on after podding. The most dreads get also down in concentrated fire where iwnd not help. The base attacks are very good i hope the bloodies get in line with the rest of the dread galore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4210229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-beard Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Why not the Baal Strike Force, not that red thirst helps, but 1 extra elite slot for another furioso? Why would red thirst not help? +1 init on all your dreads is very nice against things like wraithknights or imperial knights. When I run multiple dread lists, I always run them in a Baal strike force. Init 5 dreads are great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4212321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The problem with slow Dreads - at least versus fast stuff like Wraithknights or Imperial Knights - is that you're probably not going to get the charge. If you want to punch at I5+ consider Lib Dreads with Quickening. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4212572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 To unlock mire relics a chaplain would still be pretty fluffy in the list. The keeper of faith awakening the old guard and leading them (and some plucky younguns) into battle :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4213184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman1275 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You can run all dreads with the Archangels force org from the same book Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315388-all-walkers/#findComment-4226913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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