rendingon1+ Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Plasma repeaters? Do they have some hidden strenght (or combo with unit rules) that I'm not awere of? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4597081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Nope, but they're cool as hell and mega distructive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4597126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Ugh, I just realised 'salvo out of range' rule exists. Plasma repeaters back on menu (for me lol). I say they're worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4597539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Ugh, I just realised 'salvo out of range' rule exists. Plasma repeaters back on menu (for me lol). I say they're worth it. Care to elaborate? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4597958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farseer Anath'lan Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If you move you have 6" range, but you can assign your shots out to 12". Exact quote is: "If none of the firing models are in range of a particular model in the target unit, then Wounds cannot be allocated to it. Note that, when determining if a model is out of range, always use the firing weapon’s maximum range, even if it was a Rapid Fire or Salvo weapon that was shooting at half range (it can be imagined that whilst these weapons sacrificed accuracy or mobility to gain extra shots, their shots still travel their full range and have luckily hit another enemy)." rendingon1+ and shandwen 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 This exactly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 So long as you're able to be within 6" on a single enemy model within a unit, you can still hit the entirety of that unit (if they're within 12"). Problem still remains about getting within 6" lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Manageable Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 OHHHHH that's really nice actually then. Pew pew. IronDrake28 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I hope we do get a major rules overhaul like the WEs, as it stands, we have a few weapons and rules that are goofy, redundant, or just straight up unusable lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 We. Have Come. We. Are. Death. Hold hope brothers... I hear our glorious Dreadwing rules in the distance.... shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 So... until next winter? :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Oh if then at all Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4598692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agni Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Repeaters are awesome on overwatch with the rad grenade. Unleash three twinlinked instant death shots Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4600235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Repeaters are awesome on overwatch with the rad grenade. Unleash three twinlinked instant death shots I thought salvo doesn't overwatch...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4600699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Repeaters are awesome on overwatch with the rad grenade. Unleash three twinlinked instant death shots I thought salvo doesn't overwatch...? No such rule at all my friend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4601316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Why twin linked? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4601428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Why twin linked? Because the plasma repeaters are twin-linked? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4601430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Damn. I forgot. Yea, sure they are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4601434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Repeaters are awesome on overwatch with the rad grenade. Unleash three twinlinked instant death shotsI thought salvo doesn't overwatch...? No such rule at all my friend. Ah thanks^^ But who the hell would charge a squad of repeaters unless in ZM? Lol you could kill that likely 5 man squad with bolters and such. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4602885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agni Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 World eaters. To ID red butchers are priceless. However I hope that forgeworld made a mistake and write range already halved by salvo. =) Repeaters are awesome on overwatch with the rad grenade. Unleash three twinlinked instant death shotsI thought salvo doesn't overwatch...? No such rule at all my friend.Ah thanks^^ But who the hell would charge a squad of repeaters unless in ZM? Lol you could kill that likely 5 man squad with bolters and such. Brother Liteman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4604138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Ok fam, do I've been postulating: What if the humble legion dreadnought? Use in an Ironwing list might actually be viable. Give them acid heavy bolters (I'm going to do this with the cool mkiv ironclad hurricane bolter), melta gun, and two hunter killer missiles. Take a Talon and spam 4-6 tank hunting missiles, and clean up infantry with acid heavy bolters. Saves some points while making them a credible threat. Just make sure to use cover since they don't have a ++ Reyner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4604357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Ok fam, do I've been postulating: What if the humble legion dreadnought? Use in an Ironwing list might actually be viable. Give them acid heavy bolters (I'm going to do this with the cool mkiv ironclad hurricane bolter), melta gun, and two hunter killer missiles. Take a Talon and spam 4-6 tank hunting missiles, and clean up infantry with acid heavy bolters. Saves some points while making them a credible threat. Just make sure to use cover since they don't have a ++ In terms of popping Rhinos and killing juicy Vets/ Tacs etc inside - not a bad idea at all. Cheap I don't think is the word for it however, as these come in at 155pts a pop... So 465pts for your Talon. While not a direct comparison of role, the issue comes in when you compare them to a Contemptor Cortus: For a measly 10pts extra (165 total) you can get a Contemptor Cortus with a Kheres Assault Cannon and Graviton Gun Fist (or double Grav). With Tank hunter this guy is rending up vehicles all over the show while chipping off all but guaranteed HP with the Grav weaponry. He is more mobile in his overcharge ability and has AV13 5++ on the front Arc to protect him, much stronger than plain AV12. Not to mention fleet to actually get into combat. You of course have the advantage of range with those Hunter-Killers, but they are one shot and gone... depthcharge12 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4605027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 So, has anyone actually tried Ravenwing extensively? To me, it is still a major headscratcher. Compared to Scars, it seems rather limited (and very expensive to buy). Am I missing something? Sorry, if it has been covered. I skimmed most of the pages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4605330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agni Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 I tried it and its powerful as hell. Good synergy with machine killers veterans or lightning. 10 tartaros with mauls an rad grenades to smash everyone and sweep them. 3 by 4 acid jetbikes. 4-5 speeders with grav. We can even take them as one unit cause we have ability to junk and then hide in the ongoing reserves. So, has anyone actually tried Ravenwing extensively? To me, it is still a major headscratcher. Compared to Scars, it seems rather limited (and very expensive to buy). Am I missing something? Sorry, if it has been covered. I skimmed most of the pages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317090-hh10-dark-angels-tactics/page/27/#findComment-4605405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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