40k superheavies in 30k

[Master of the Forge]

Can i use a baneblade ect in 30k for a Imperial fists legion?

 

[M@verik115]

I actually also want to know this. The baneblade is only listed in the solar auxilia list, but no where does it state it can be fielded in a legion astartes list

Worst case scenario is you use it as a fellblade or ally in solar auxilia. 

[Caillum]

This has been asked multiple times. Read this post by Hesh Kadesh, including fedratsailor's follow-up further down the thread:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/302242-resource-heresy-era-lords-of-war/?p=3925306

[M@verik115]

So in short no you cannot.

[Caillum]

So in short, yes you can.

[M@verik115]

So in short, yes you can.

"In order to represent this diversity when it comes to Super-heavy vehicles and Flyers, it is perfectly acceptable to use specific Imperial Super-heavy vehicles and Flyer units from Forge World's wider Imperial Armour range such as Imperial Armour; Apocalypse or Imperial Armour Aeronautica, which do not already have an era-specific counterpart listed in a Horus Heresy supplement"

 

The baneblade is available in a horus heresy supplement (Solar Auxilia list). 

So no we cannot :( 

[Hesh Kadesh]

It depends on whether you class the 'Baneblade' to be the same as a 'Solar Auxilia Baneblade Battle Tank. If yes, then no you cannot. If no, then you may take it. That however, allows all units to get access to Psychic Pilot Thunderhawks via Grey Knights Thunderhawk Gunships.

[RandomMarine]

Are the stats/cost different between the solar aixilia and the guard if so I'd say they were different.

[Liquid_O]

Technically all of the SA superheavy tanks are different as they have the Explorator Adaptation rules and can take/have Multilasers as options, whereas non-SA tanks do not

[RandomMarine]

I might use that to justify a stormlord

20 heavy chooms

1 mos with void shield

1 techmarine

Mor and 8 cc built cataphracti

 

I name it "come at me bro"

Only 2100 points in tank lol

[RandomMarine]

Made a quick list round it for lols

+++ Come at me bro (2500pts) +++

 

++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Iron-father Autek Mor [Cyber-familiar]

····Master of the Legion [Pride of the Legion]

 

Legion Centurion [Power Armour, Void Shield Harness]

····Consul [Master of Signal]

 

+ Troops +

 

Legion Tactical Squad [19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]

····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Fist]

 

Legion Terminator Squad [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, 2x Chainfist, Heavy Flamer, 8x Legion Terminators, 3x Lightning Claw]

····Legion Terminator Sergeant [Cyber-familiar]

 

+ Elites +

 

Techmarine Covenant [Legion Techmarine]

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Legion Attack Bike Squadron [3x Autocannon, 3x Legion Attack Bike]

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Legion Heavy Support Squad [9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Culverin]

····Legion Sergeant [Augury Scanner]

 

Legion Heavy Support Squad [9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Culverin]

····Legion Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner]

 

+ Legion +

 

Legion Astartes [X: Iron Hands]

 

++ Solar Auxilia (Lords of War) ++

 

+ Lord of War +

 

Auxilia Stormlord Super-heavy Assault Tank [Armoured Ceramite, 2x Side sponson with one Lascannon and one twin-linked Heavy bolter]

 

Created with BattleScribe (http://www.battlescribe.net)

[SkimaskMohawk]

Void shield is consent only now, much like the alternate focs

[Slips]

That and using Pride of the Legion means you can no longer use basic Tac Squads as compulsory troops.

[zedmeister]

It depends on whether you class the 'Baneblade' to be the same as a 'Solar Auxilia Baneblade Battle Tank. If yes, then no you cannot. If no, then you may take it. That however, allows all units to get access to Psychic Pilot Thunderhawks via Grey Knights Thunderhawk Gunships.

I think the word counterpart covers it well enough. The grey knights thunderhawk is definitely a counterpart of the 30k one, regardless of specific name or given rules (besides, attempts to run it in a 30k force would be laughed at anyway). Same with the Minotaur really.

 

You could argue over semantics, but a Baneblade is a Baneblade at the end of the day.

[Hesh Kadesh]

I've gone over that in the linked thread. Arguments can be given on both sides of the argument, and I leave it to the individual players to make that shout.

 

A GK THawk to represent an allied Thousand Sons, say, or a D-99 Valkyrie to get effectively DPA with them and the unit within.

[Remus Ventanus.]

would superheavies such as the baneblade and shadowsword be painted in legion colours?

[Soldier of Dorn]

would superheavies such as the baneblade and shadowsword be painted in legion colours?

 

It varies. In Massacre on pages 54-55 there's a spread of a Emperor's Children Stormblade in dark-grey with only the turret painted in purple, but four pages later there's another spread of a Sons of Horus Shadowsword almost fully painted green.

[Remus Ventanus.]

 

would superheavies such as the baneblade and shadowsword be painted in legion colours?

 

It varies. In Massacre on pages 54-55 there's a spread of a Emperor's Children Stormblade in dark-grey with only the turret painted in purple, but four pages later there's another spread of a Sons of Horus Shadowsword almost fully painted green.

 

Thanks for the info! That gives me the freedom to paint my shadowsword blue :D