M@verik115 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Now im so glad I have a unit of tartaros termies :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 So Dark Angels might have a monster hunting theme, makes sense with the purging of Caliban's forests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sweeping Advandce Tartaros! AWESOME!!! (don't like cataphractii) Cheaper delegatus with MC weapon! (run him a lot) 3A on Dreads!! (damn -1BS on stndard dread) I like what I see. I like it very much. Why "no more void shield harness"? I understand that if both opponents agree you can use relics. Castellax Battle-automata with the Legiones Astartes (Dark Angels) special rule mayre-roll failed To Wound rolls against Monstrous Creatures and Flying Monstrous Creatures. I just hope it is not a part of standard DA legion rules. If it is 1st legion is no go for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I think it'll be one of the extra bits of rules for characters, like how Fists reroll in challenges. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I can't see why it would be. They get Legiones Astartes anyway, and if it was, they'd have no need of it. 'If both opponents agree' is a very contentious thing. Basically it means that there is another level of decision needed, along the lines of the variant FoC's. Unlike with them (such as the one that allowed 4 Typhons in a 2k force or dual Warhound in 1500 or whatever), Relics aren't broken, they're just mostly crap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aias Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Love that the Tartaros pattern armor finally has rules to back it up; been wanting that since I first thought about getting into the Heresy. Unfortunately, now I have a dilemma. I was planning on converting some Tartaros armor with TH/SS for my Alphas as a "reverse-engineered" Firedrake to use with Coils of the Hydra. They're on their way now, in fact. Should I carry on? Not like any regular terminators I could take could even have Storm Shields anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 These lads are very happy with the update! Sweeping Terminators with Crusader, oh my ;) http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/kizzdougs/DSCN3780_zps95dnijel.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 As the resident hipster of the 1st legion (I was doing 1st legion before it was cool :P jk), I have mixed feelings about the monster hunter aspect of the rules. Like yeah it's a bit fluffy, but it's also unimaginative and expensive points wise for something that'll be useless against 19 of the 20 HH armies out there. I hope the DAs get something better than MH and a poopy relic. But hey, how bout them Tartarus pattern suits eh? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Wonder if the Calth box included plastic Tartaros Terminators the Cataphractii variety would have gotten a random boost :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand_master85 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Definitely have to get some Dark Angels for my Shattered Legions army. The number of Castellax/Thanatars out there, makes it a rather useful rule. If the Dark Angels get that as part of their rules, I suspect that will be a small part of it. They'll likely get some other nice rules. Still wish they had reversed Librarians having the Spport Officer rule. My Scars and Thousand Sons will just have to wait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Im happy with the update. Adresses some of the bigger issues weve encountered. We cant really complain though! Comparatively speaking that is. Could have done with a bit more but its better than nothing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Furor Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Finally the rule everyone assumed Tartaros terminators had, they now have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 You can technically take Cataphractii Pattern Phoenix Terms now. There is literally no reason whatsoever to take normal Terminator Armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 You can technically take Cataphractii Pattern Phoenix Terms now. There is literally no reason whatsoever to take normal Terminator Armour. I wonder if this buff to the tartaros is due to the glut of plastic cataphractii models available? Granted the resin weapons kits are still important but I can't imagine the resin cataphractii would sell as well now. The idea here might be to give FW's remaining terminator line a shot in the arm with a rule they had originally toyed with in playtesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not really. A few of us remember a time when Tartaros originally cane with Sweeping Advance. Then it disappeared. And now its back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Didn't they only used to have a 6++ too? Wasn't that the trade off? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yes. But thats not the case anymore so woo! Hopefully they make a footnote for Indomitus and make it cheaper because as of now theres no reason to take it. Its objectively worse. Also IF 2+/3++ Terminators that can sweep woo!! Suck it Firedrakes!! :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yes. But thats not the case anymore so woo! Hopefully they make a footnote for Indomitus and make it cheaper because as of now theres no reason to take it. Its objectively worse. Also IF 2+/3++ Terminators that can sweep woo!! Suck it Firedrakes!! The fact that i just recently built a unit of these makes me laugh loudly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Yes. But thats not the case anymore so woo! Hopefully they make a footnote for Indomitus and make it cheaper because as of now theres no reason to take it. Its objectively worse. Also IF 2+/3++ Terminators that can sweep woo!! Suck it Firedrakes!! The fact that i just recently built a unit of these makes me laugh loudly I was about to post in your topic dude. You must be grinning like a Nurgling. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Between that and being able to use all 7 imperial knights in 30k now I am very happy with the updates tot he rules Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4271645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Will this FAQ stop the argument where some people feel the Betrayer FAQ still takes precedence? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4272904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memento Of Prospero Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Will this FAQ stop the argument where some people feel the Betrayer FAQ still takes precedence? Can't stop someone from "feeling" because it's not an valid argument to begin with. It's a weaker version of "because it's like that". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4272916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Still no clarification about the missing squadron command tank rules. They really don't want my predator squadrons to be really cool I guess Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4272935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquid_O Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Still no clarification about the missing squadron command tank rules. They really don't want my predator squadrons to be really cool I guess What clarification is needed? The rules are in the vehicle wargear section? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4272976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Still no clarification about the missing squadron command tank rules. They really don't want my predator squadrons to be really cool I guessWhat clarification is needed? The rules are in the vehicle wargear section? Does it no longer grant interceptor? I haven't looked at that rule in a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/317964-fw-horus-heresy-rules-update-pdf/page/2/#findComment-4272980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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