Teetengee Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 With all the neat rules that the space wolves just got, I think they might just be rolling with the punches, to be honest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, from what I can gather, this campaign has the following details: Grey Knights and Dark Angels are summoned to Fenris space. The Dark Angels were tricked by a demon who put on an ACME robe The Rock is about twice the size of the moon The Dark Angel fleet could take on a substantial chunk of the Imperial Navy if it wanted to The Dark Angels have opened fire on Fenris and/or Space Wolf assets The 13th Company is now just The Wulfen Throngs of demons are following the Wulfen from the warp For some reason, chaos wants the two space marine chapters most capable of combating chaos forces present for the demonic incursion Fenris is being ripped apart, likely under bombardment by the Dark Angels and/or Grey Knights I haven't done a lot of really deep reading into the replies in the main rumor thread, but I haven't seen a lot of outrage from Space Wolf players. Naturally they're just rumors, but the campaign is not looking overly good for them. Or for the future of the Imperium in general. I expected a bit more of a reaction. Of course, could turn out they are fracking a demon world in that picture and it's the "end result of the campaign to drive the demons back into the eye of terror". Still, I figured there would be more unhappy pups. I'm OK with the fluff so far. The DA and SWs obviously team up at some point based on some of the images in the book. (At least two that Iv'e seen from the rumor threads). I personally think that Azrael would seek Logan out before commencing bombardment. It is not trivial for a founding chapter to be bombarded/invaded even if is another chapter without the consent of the Lords of Terra or =][=. Perhaps this is jus to pacify some of the defense weapons as we wolves are known for shooting first when people invade our space. I'll wait for it to fully play out before getting upset. I've read the book and I'm generally OK so far with what's been said, just have an issue with what writing style(it sucks). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopounder Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 So, from what I can gather, this campaign has the following details: Grey Knights and Dark Angels are summoned to Fenris space. The Dark Angels were tricked by a demon who put on an ACME robe The Rock is about twice the size of the moon The Dark Angel fleet could take on a substantial chunk of the Imperial Navy if it wanted to The Dark Angels have opened fire on Fenris and/or Space Wolf assets The 13th Company is now just The Wulfen Throngs of demons are following the Wulfen from the warp For some reason, chaos wants the two space marine chapters most capable of combating chaos forces present for the demonic incursion Fenris is being ripped apart, likely under bombardment by the Dark Angels and/or Grey Knights I haven't done a lot of really deep reading into the replies in the main rumor thread, but I haven't seen a lot of outrage from Space Wolf players. Naturally they're just rumors, but the campaign is not looking overly good for them. Or for the future of the Imperium in general. I expected a bit more of a reaction. Of course, could turn out they are fracking a demon world in that picture and it's the "end result of the campaign to drive the demons back into the eye of terror". Still, I figured there would be more unhappy pups. I'm OK with the fluff so far. The DA and SWs obviously team up at some point based on some of the images in the book. (At least two that Iv'e seen from the rumor threads). I personally think that Azrael would seek Logan out before commencing bombardment. It is not trivial for a founding chapter to be bombarded/invaded even if is another chapter without the consent of the Lords of Terra or =][=. Perhaps this is jus to pacify some of the defense weapons as we wolves are known for shooting first when people invade our space. I'll wait for it to fully play out before getting upset. I've read the book and I'm generally OK so far with what's been said, just have an issue with what writing style(it sucks). According to the fluff, he's told directly by the changer to fire, and he does so without even communicating with the space wolves at any level. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It just needs better writing. What about Watchers in the Dark? Are they blind too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallistus Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It just needs better writing. What about Watchers in the Dark? Are they blind too? The Changeling has tricked Harlequins, and Grey Knights too. It's extremely good at what it does. If it wasn't it wouldn't be very good at its job. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalleron Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Who is the changeling looking like to get Azrael to give the order to fire? That would have to be someone pretty deep in the circle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallistus Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 The Changling is just impersonating some vox operator. Azreal gives the order to fire because the system is chaos infested, and the space wolves seem to be protecting the their "corrupted" brothers. I only read the screenshot earlier in this thread so I don't know how the Changling tricked them, but he is just watching the order, not giving it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve86 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 a friend at my local store bought the supplement. there's a whole codex worth of new formations for space wolves. we also played a 1250 match with him using proxies for counts-as wulfen and boy do they hurt when you mess up and get charged by them butchered a DWK squad and my DWC w/ libby too. giving them Hit&Run (sammy?) would be hilarious when paired with that new axe's ability Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4305932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMarko Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Guys, Im saying this for both of our chapters - writing in this book made us like morons...Not just morons, ultra morons who's commanders are like burnt out servitors with butcher nails...There is no structure of command, and writing is more suited for some warband shenaningans rather than a founding chapters and GK...Our honor duels will become honour facepalms after this I tell you... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4306024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhavoc Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I would love a serious boost to the Deathwing as well Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4306258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 >Russ returned.>Lion woke up.>Declaring cease-fire, both Primarchs led the Imperium in defeating the Chaos menace>After the campaign ended, both Lion and Russ started to hurl insults at each other and proceeded to beat each other up, much to the shock of Imperial forces there... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4306348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Guys, Im saying this for both of our chapters - writing in this book made us like morons...Not just morons, ultra morons who's commanders are like burnt out servitors with butcher nails...There is no structure of command, and writing is more suited for some warband shenaningans rather than a founding chapters and GK...Our honor duels will become honour facepalms after this I tell you... Having read it I wouldn't go that far. As stated, there is just not a lot of substance to the writing. It's too rushed, which does not allow for detailed description of why everything is happening. Too much to describe in a limited space. It's all skeleton and no juicy meats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4306454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaSY Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 For event of such to happen, Cypher should be around... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4306674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Do you guys like this new fluff development? Where would you like it to go? What's your prediction of the likely outcome? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4317933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Since there was already a thread about DA in the wulfen /space wolves book, I merged the two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4317961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Finally, yes, the space wolves would notice. Dark Angels, even mutated, would never be able to hide among wulfen. Even if the robes and black armor didn't give them away to searching DA, the wulfen would know immediately that the the fallen are not one of them. It's not like the wulfen are a bunch of fenrisian penguins that heard around and are oblivious to things in their midst. And as far as I know, they aren't very kind to outsiders. Please, correct me if I am mistaken- do not Woven have elongated canines ? "The Wulfen were remarkably hirsute, even by Space Wolves standards, and their canine teeth grew into large dagger-like fangs." That would make anybody with less... doggy face so to speak stand out a bit. http://www.40kings.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IMG-20160128-WA0009.jpg I don't know fallen could hide in that... The Fallen do hide...in the Wulfens' stomachs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318679-rumor-control-dark-angels-in-the-wolf-book-update/page/4/#findComment-4317988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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