[HH1.0] Blood Angels Tactica - Assault Cannons For Days

[DietOfLiquor]

I was thinking of just tossing the vets in a dreadclaw, as it stands, it's cheaper than it used to be, and just keep sniper for hand flamer goodness, then a second close combat melta squad also in a dreadclaw, then a cortus or levie in ddp for some extra punch for the 2 unit drop turn 1. My only concern is what to put on the board to keep all of that alive.

[Charlo]

Missile launchers are pretty crappy on vets. Sure you can go the +1 to pen skill, but that's a but poop still for the points.

[helterskelter]

Actually that could work oddly well with pride. 3 squads of vets, tank hunter thingy, 2 ml each, pop spartan, murder rule for +1 combat shenanigans, sprinkle in power weapons, assault marines for flavour and a perdition praetor. And baal malcador for lols

[Theredknight]

I'm seriously considering a Baal malcador or two, simply because it would be awesome.

Would they survive though? Or just be priority targets?

[m0nolith]

I'm seriously considering a Baal malcador or two, simply because it would be awesome.

Would they survive though? Or just be priority targets?

Give them Flare Shields and Armored Ceramite, and yeah, they'll stay up.

Its pricey at 55 points each tank, but I think its worth it.

[Charlo]

It's a little over 1k points for 6 nasty large blast templates and what... 9 or so assault cannons?

 

In the scheme of it, pretty good!

 

Good mobility options too letting you surge forward and still shoot the battle cannons. Mobile shield wall haha.

[The Unseen]

If they give them 40k rules I will almost certainly get one.

That much dakka plus a transport?

Awesome.

On the other hand, the kharybis calls to me.

[Charlo]

Malcador isn't a transport I'm afraid!

[CaptainHelion]

With the improvement Veterans have seen, how are we all feeling about Nuncio-vox squads starting on the field for accurate deep-strike in a DoR list?

[m0nolith]

With the improvement Veterans have seen, how are we all feeling about Nuncio-vox squads starting on the field for accurate deep-strike in a DoR list?

Maybe for drop pods and flyers that come in later, but everything with a jump pack is coming in turn one.

[Terminus]

Well, you can take the new discounted recon squad and scout them forward. It may even be worth it to take carapace for infiltrate too.

 

Malcador isn't a transport I'm afraid!

You wouldn't think so given how much Dorn is always riding him in the BL novels. :P Edited July 21, 2016 by Terminus

[Theredknight]

 

 

I'm seriously considering a Baal malcador or two, simply because it would be awesome.

Would they survive though? Or just be priority targets?

Give them Flare Shields and Armored Ceramite, and yeah, they'll stay up.

Its pricey at 55 points each tank, but I think its worth it.

Just checked that as a double take, wow have you ever seen a malcador wall I Built? They are the best malcador walls honestly, you've never seems a better malcador wall in your life, the shield wall just got one malcador bigger I tell you.

[Reyner]

Took me way too long to figure out what you guys were talking about... Baal Malcodors sound delicious though, if only you could get Malcador Defenders and they had the option to swap all the heavy bolters for heavy flamers!

[m0nolith]

Thought, can twin linked heavy flamers be upgraded to twin linked assault cannons?
Ie, can my spartan have a TL-AC instead of the heavy bolters that it comes with?
 

Took me way too long to figure out what you guys were talking about... Baal Malcodors sound delicious though, if only you could get Malcador Defenders and they had the option to swap all the heavy bolters for heavy flamers!

You're talking about a tank with 7 assault cannons there.
Gonna be pretty hard to keep track of all the jams.

Edited July 21, 2016 by m0nolith

[Charlo]

RAW, no.

[The Unseen]

Well I feel silly, I confused the Malcador with the Mastodon. Too many new names that are all similar, so my bad. But yeah, a mastadon sounds perfect. I'd rather take a fellblade than 2 malcadors, even if they are superior. The fellblade looks to damn awesome.

[CaptainHelion]

I think the main benefit of Malcadors for us is being able to take them in a DoR list, now that they're a Heavy Support slot, rather than the Lord of War.

[m0nolith]

With all of this Malcador talk, now you have me looking into it!

 

How would you outfit yours?

[Flint13]

^So far my favorite has been flare shield, demo cannon, battle cannon.

 

All about that 12" move with those double templates.

[ThatOneMarshal]

With all of this Malcador talk, now you have me looking into it!

 

How would you outfit yours?

Battle cannon and maybe demo and then fit everything else with assualt cannons.

[Noserenda]

Ive run a pair of Malcadors with 2 cannons and flamers in my Alpha Legion a lot as assault tanks, they can do a lot of damage but die in every battle, which used to haemorrhage a ridiculous number of VPs, looking forward to trying them as a HS slot though!

[Theredknight]

Ah but alphas didn't have assault cannons!

A friend plays them in a kreig army, and says the same. Although his infernus makes it a priority target.

Still, it would be lovely to get that armour on the board. I am thinking or knocking up a list using DOR but not exclusively concentrating on jump packs, rather, to use them to augment a force deployed on the board.

Also makes surviving a t1 with only a las vindi better.

[Theredknight]

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324377-blood-angels-armoured-assault-day-of-revalation-3k/?do=findComment&comment=4455834

 

Come on guys, what you think of this?

[Terminus]

Missile launchers are pretty crappy on vets. Sure you can go the +1 to pen skill, but that's a but poop still for the points.

It's mostly just to give you two more anti-transport shots out of the top of the Rhino before you're in rapid fire range. Works better with Alpha Legion for tank hunter or Dark Angels with stasis missiles, of course. The frag templates are actually still quite potent with Sniper, as they net you as many or more opportunities for Rending Hits as heavy bolters, at a much longer range.  Plasma guns are probably the "best" option for most veterans, though, being cheaper, better against vehicles, and being guaranteed AP2 hits for dealing with Sgts and those precision shots at Apothecaries. With all Blood Angels wounding others on at least a 3+, I'd stick with their battle paradigm of flamers and melta-guns.

[Theredknight]

Had a thought, if we used a Baal pred sqn and had 2 baals, what about the third with magma melta machine spirited off to another target?

Sure it's short range, but if the baals glance up a transport the melta can template delete them?