[HH1.0] Black Shields Tactica

Terminus · August 18, 2016

Been a while since I looked, but aren't Chaplains specifically listed as unavailable to Blackshields?

Chaplains are available to anyone except the Orphans of War. Ironically enough, Blackshields can even take a Delegatus, a Primarch's proxy.

Brother Aiwass · August 18, 2016

Yeah, but the poor delegatus isn't going to bring much for Blackshields, sadly.

Brother Aiwass · August 18, 2016

This time a chymeriae (option 1: S5 T5 I3) 2k list, bear with me :P

++Thunder Warriors++

+Reaver Lord: Thunder hammer, bike, rad-g, halo, cyber-senpai, AA, digi-las, MB - 235

+Apothecarion detach: 2x apoth, 2x augury scanner, pariah armour - 100
+Apothecarion detach: 1x, bike, 1x augury scanner - 70

+Marauder squad: 15 marauders, pariah bolters, pariah armour, chainaxes, 2x meltagun, PF - 320
+Marauder squad: 15 marauders, pariah bolters, pariah armour, chainaxes, 2x meltagun, PF - 320
+Marauder squad: 10 marauders, 2x meltagun, pariah armour, chainaxes, dreadclaw - 330

+Outrider squad: 9 outriders, Sgt, MB, 3x power axes - 320

+Leviathan dread: cyclonic melta lance, CCW, phosphex - 305

2000 pts

Terminus · August 18, 2016

Pariah armor seems really bad. A second bolt pistol is better than a pariah bolter. :P

Brother Aiwass · August 18, 2016

Yes xD

Pariah stuff is for fluff reasons (Mk I power armour, and proto-bolters). Besides that, the list would work? :)

Terminus · August 18, 2016

No transports for most of them makes it a rough go unless you're playing Zone Mortalis. Instead of the Reaver, I would take Haar so you can at least get the foot-slogging units a scout move. Just remember he will have to footslog with them since he has to be in play to use his trait for some silly reason.

Edited August 18, 2016 by Terminus

Brother Aiwass · August 18, 2016

If I drop a couple of things (3 bikers and a PW, the reaver's MB, the biker medic) still can fit Haar but that would hurt me. Other option might be changing the Reaver for a Forge Lord (pretty much same loadout) and get some points free but still 10 pts short.

+EDIT+

Figured it out.

++Thunder Warriors++

+Haar - 185

+Forge Lord: Thunder hammer, bike, rad-g, refractor, cyber-senpai, AA - 160

+Apothecarion detach: 2x apoth, 2x augury scanner, pariah armour - 100
+Apothecarion detach: 1x, bike, 1x augury scanner - 70

+Marauder squad: 14 marauders, pariah bolters, pariah armour, chainaxes, 2x meltagun, PF - 306 Haar goes here
+Marauder squad: 15 marauders, pariah bolters, pariah armour, chainaxes, 2x meltagun, PF - 320
+Marauder squad: 10 marauders, 2x meltagun, pariah armour, chainaxes, dreadclaw - 330

+Outrider squad: 6 outriders, Sgt, MB, 3x power axes - 220

+Leviathan dread: cyclonic melta lance, CCW, phosphex - 305

1996 pts

The bike section is not as strong as before with less bodies and punch with the lack of the S10 T6 2+/3++ Reaver but I guess it can still do the job.

Edited August 19, 2016 by Maximvs

Nusquam · September 28, 2016

Combi-pariah bolters on sniper vets? I think it's kosher. And I want it.

Charlo · September 29, 2016

Combi-pariah bolters on sniper vets? I think it's kosher. And I want it.

Sadly I don't think it is.

Unsure if you can replace a combi part of pariah...

Nusquam · September 29, 2016

Its a weird instance. I could definitely see it thematically, especially if it were a pariah boltgun with a pariah combi flamer. Though, I'm not a fan of pariah bolters.

Silk · September 30, 2016

Hey guys, do you think its possible to build a fluffy list with Endryd Haar and Erud Vahn?

I am thinking of either starting WE or Blackshields -.-

Charlo · September 30, 2016

Yes indeed.

Is Harr the one that leads teh crazy zombie robot Astartes on Xana?

foto69man · October 8, 2016

2v2 coming up, 1k points per player. Thinking of running this and see what my partner can do...

Chymeriae

Praevian - Artificer armour, refractor field, power axe, cortex controller

-2x Castellax - Darkfire and power blades, frag grenades

9 Man Marauder squad - chainaxes

5 man marauder squad chainaxes

Leviathan Dread - Grav flux and Storm Cannon

or

Chymeriae

Praevian - Artificer armour, refractor field, power axe, cortex controller

-2x Castellax - Darkfire and power blades, frag grenades

9 Man Marauder squad - chainaxes - Dreadclaw

5 man marauder squad chainaxes

Sicaran Tank - ceramite

Caillum · October 8, 2016

Praevian is a Support Officer, so he can't be your Compulsory HQ. Might want to change that before I make any other suggestions! ;)

foto69man · October 8, 2016

Praevian is a Support Officer, so he can't be your Compulsory HQ. Might want to change that before I make any other suggestions!

ooops......

998pts

Chymeriae

Master of Armour

-Sicaran w/ceramite

Praevian - Artificer armour, refractor field, power axe, cortex controller

-2x Castellax - Darkfire and power blades, frag grenades

9 Man Marauder squad - chainaxes - Dreadclaw

5 man marauder squad chainaxes

seems a bit light, but it is a 2v2 game. Idk though, thoughts?

Plaguecaster · October 8, 2016

Unfortunately you can't take a master of armour since it can be only selected as part of the armoured rite and BS can't have rites.

foto69man · October 8, 2016

That's what I get for looking at battlescribe and not the book.

Last try...

Chymeriae

Blackshield Reaver Lord

Praevian - Artificer armour, refractor field, power axe, cortex controller

-2x Castellax - Darkfire and power blades, frag grenades

9 Man Marauder squad - chainaxes

5 man marauder squad chainaxes

Sicaran Tank - ceramite

Had to drop the dreadclaw

Charlo · October 8, 2016

Not bad! Though I think that 5 man squad is very small and not going to achieve anything.

Previans are awesome but most of your points are tied up in the Lord and the Previans +bots.

foto69man · October 8, 2016

Not bad! Though I think that 5 man squad is very small and not going to achieve anything.

Previans are awesome but most of your points are tied up in the Lord and the Previans +bots.

Yeah, just trying to find a good, decently hitting 1k list to run. It being a 2v2 gives me a bit more leeway I suppose. My teammate might be running cult milita, not sure.

I might equal out the marauder squads as much as possible.

Terminus · October 8, 2016

I've had a surprising amount of success with this Outlanders list.

HQ: Nemean Reaver - 180
HQ: Damocles Command Rhino - 100
Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-plasmas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240
Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-meltas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240
Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-meltas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240
Elite: 2x Apothecaries in artificer armor - 110
Troops: 8x Marauders with shotguns, chainaxes, powerfist, rad grenades, nuncio vox - 213
Troops: 9x Marauders with shotguns, chainaxes, powerfist, rad grenades, nuncio vox - 226
Fast Attack: 6x Seekers, combi-plasmas, Sgt with artificer armor - 245
Fast Attack: Dreadclaw - 115
Fast Attack: Dreadclaw - 115
Heavy Support: Deredeo - 220
Heavy Support: Whirlwind - 115
Heavy Support: Deimos Laser Destroyer - 130

Reaver, Apothecaries, and Marauders are in the dreadclaws, all the other infantry deep strikes. The list is pretty sturdy if it loses turn one, having only AV13 targets to present to the enemy, with judicious use of cover and LOS blocking. With only three rhino hulls to cover, the Deredeo can cover most approaches, although definitely a deep strike heavy list will hurt these gunline elements if they get the drop on you.

Turn two usually involves the Reaver squad charging something and at least 2 terminator squads dropping down using the Deimos or nuncio vox for accuracy. It did struggle when I let my friend use my Skorr Coils list and he stacked -2 to reserves so my reinforcements were a bit of a crap shoot even with the Deimos helping. It worked out though with the Marauders doing a surprisingly brutal job (I guess shouldn't be surprising with rad grenades and chainaxes, but still...).

autek mor · October 10, 2016

I've had a surprising amount of success with this Outlanders list.

HQ: Nemean Reaver - 180

HQ: Damocles Command Rhino - 100

Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-plasmas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240

Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-meltas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240

Elite: 5x Terminators with combi-meltas, powerfists/1 chainfist - 240

Elite: 2x Apothecaries in artificer armor - 110

Troops: 8x Marauders with shotguns, chainaxes, powerfist, rad grenades, nuncio vox - 213

Troops: 9x Marauders with shotguns, chainaxes, powerfist, rad grenades, nuncio vox - 226

Fast Attack: 6x Seekers, combi-plasmas, Sgt with artificer armor - 245

Fast Attack: Dreadclaw - 115

Fast Attack: Dreadclaw - 115

Heavy Support: Deredeo - 220

Heavy Support: Whirlwind - 115

Heavy Support: Deimos Laser Destroyer - 130

Reaver, Apothecaries, and Marauders are in the dreadclaws, all the other infantry deep strikes. The list is pretty sturdy if it loses turn one, having only AV13 targets to present to the enemy, with judicious use of cover and LOS blocking. With only three rhino hulls to cover, the Deredeo can cover most approaches, although definitely a deep strike heavy list will hurt these gunline elements if they get the drop on you.

Turn two usually involves the Reaver squad charging something and at least 2 terminator squads dropping down using the Deimos or nuncio vox for accuracy. It did struggle when I let my friend use my Skorr Coils list and he stacked -2 to reserves so my reinforcements were a bit of a crap shoot even with the Deimos helping. It worked out though with the Marauders doing a surprisingly brutal job (I guess shouldn't be surprising with rad grenades and chainaxes, but still...).

could you scale that list down to 2k please?

thanks in advance if you feel like taking the time to do so.

Terminus · October 10, 2016

Drop the Seekers and a unit of Terminators, or two units of Terminators, and then like 1 Marauder to get those last 15-20 points?

Gorgoff · October 10, 2016

Do you have a picture of your army, Terminus? :)

Terminus · October 10, 2016

Sure, I can whip something up! A lot of the army is still a work in progress and during tactical assessment leaned heavily on proxies (I haven't even decided 100% on what to use for Marauders... I want to use Reavers but that's a lot of iconography that may or may not work). These guys are priority one on painting table, so they should be ready for their moment of glory shortly. :P

Reyner · October 10, 2016

Sure, I can whip something up! A lot of the army is still a work in progress and during tactical assessment leaned heavily on proxies (I haven't even decided 100% on what to use for Marauders... I want to use Reavers but that's a lot of iconography that may or may not work). These guys are priority one on painting table, so they should be ready for their moment of glory shortly. :P

Looking forward to seeing them Terminus :D could you PM me some decent third party Quad Mortars too haha?

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