Black Shields - Loyality unknown (ideas collection)

[Kelborn]

"Istvaan changed everything. Brothers became enemies. Thousands were slain. A Primarch, one of our godlike fathers, was murdered by one of his closest friends. My own Legion was crippled. Nearly extinct, our father lead the rest of us into hiding, starting a war which only mean was to survive and avenge our fallen men. I did not join them. I did not care for them. The weak and naïve died on Istvann's surface. I survived. I did never trust anyone. Even my father could only keep me at hand, because I let him. I only joined him to become a free man again. I only joined him to become stronger and better in what I always loved to do...to kill...to hunt.

Now, on this bigoted ship, filled with fanatics and traitors, I will hunt again. Freed from the restrains of Corax, I will kill them all. I will again be the Blood Crow."

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Private log of Moritat-Prime Kaedes Nex, aboard the warship Tenacious Zeal, XVII Legiones Astartes, the Preachers of the truth - chapter

I would have never imagined that the VI book would affect me in such a way. I always thought of it as a fill-in until book VII comes out. But with the Black Shields, I finally found my army. Like some of you, I do like several Legions but never enjoyed them entirely. Except the VI and maybe the XIX, every other Legion got something I did not liked about them. Now, I can do what I want.

This small monologue shall be the beginning of a small new project of mine: a black shield force led by Kaedes Nex. I really like this character. Although born on Deliverance, he seems like a really bad-ass character.

As I don't have the time to buy and paint some models, it will just be a fluff-based project, but one I'm really excited of. My idea was that Kaedes find some Istvaan survivors who were captured by the Word Bearers to experiment with them for some new rituals, etc. Although being a loner, Kaedes does not want his former comrades to die like this. Therefore he frees them, kills the Word Bearers and took over the ship (not quite sure which class it should be). From this day on, this band of brothers fights for their own goals (as the survivors have lost their trust in the Imperium and the Primarchs), against traitors and loyalists alike (as they don't know about the loyalties of DAs, UM, BA, IFs, SWs, WS, there are enough to fight against ;)).

Don't know, where this will lead to, but this idea immediately came up after reading this thread as a whole.

Do some of you have some thoughts about this?

[The boater]

I Like it a Lot. Really plays on the depth of hatred I feel that a black shield might have towards everyone. Personally though, I like my distrust to be a little more deep seeded so in turn my leader will be from an older injustice...

 

Great start though.

[Dizzyeye01]

I'm guessing that you'll need to get the Great Crusade book to be able to run these guys? Cause if so it's gonna be a while till I can get both books and have not sold any organs.

[Gorgoff]

"Istvaan changed everything. Brothers became enemies. Thousands were slain. A Primarch, one of our godlike fathers, was murdered by one of his closest friends. My own Legion was crippled. Nearly extinct, our father lead the rest of us into hiding, starting a war which only mean was to survive and avenge our fallen men. I did not join them. I did not care for them. The weak and naïve died on Istvann's surface. I survived. I did never trust anyone. Even my father could  only keep me at hand, because I let him. I only joined him to become a free man again. I only joined him to become stronger and better in what I always loved to do...to kill...to hunt.

Now, on this bigoted ship, filled with fanatics and traitors, I will hunt again. Freed from the restrains of Corax, I will kill them all. I will again be the Blood Crow."

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Private log of Moritat-Prime Kaedes Nex, aboard the warship Tenacious Zeal, XVII Legiones Astartes, the Preachers of the truth - chapter

 

 

 

I would have never imagined that the VI book would affect me in such a way. I always thought of it as a fill-in until book VII comes out. But with the Black Shields, I finally found my army. Like some of you, I do like several Legions but never enjoyed them entirely. Except the VI and maybe the XIX, every other Legion got something I did not liked about them. Now, I can do what I want. :D

 

This small monologue shall be the beginning of a small new project of mine: a black shield force led by Kaedes Nex. I really like this character. Although born on Deliverance, he seems like a really bad-ass character.

 

As I don't have the time to buy and paint some models, it will just be a fluff-based project, but one I'm really excited of. My idea was that Kaedes find some Istvaan survivors who were captured by the Word Bearers to experiment with them for some new rituals, etc. Although being a loner, Kaedes does not want his former comrades to die like this. Therefore he frees them, kills the Word Bearers and took over the ship (not quite sure which class it should be). From this day on, this band of brothers fights for their own goals (as the survivors have lost their trust in the Imperium and the Primarchs), against traitors and loyalists alike (as they don't know about the loyalties of DAs, UM, BA, IFs, SWs, WS, there are enough to fight against ;)).

 

Don't know, where this will lead to, but this idea immediately came up after reading this thread as a whole.

 

Do some of you have some thoughts about this? :)

  

Do it.

Just. Do it.

I'm guessing that you'll need to get the Great Crusade book to be able to run these guys? Cause if so it's gonna be a while till I can get both books and have not sold any organs.

Yup, ya need both.

[HaSY]

Is he a blackshield?

[Kol Saresk]

 

 

Is he a blackshield?

If I remember right, that's the World Eaters commander who got ticked he was left out of the Civil War and then struck his colors in order to fight alongside the Loyalists. So yes, he would be a Blackshield.

 

From what I have read and seen of the background that has been released so far, the primary difference between the BlackShields and the Shattered Legions is that the Blackshields have no visibly loyalty to their parent Legion(s) while the Shattered Legions do.

 

The Shattered Legions are of course, cut off from the higher chains of command and are thus forced to act independently. Most still side with their parent Legions, but irregardless, they still view themselves as being part of their Legion.

 

The Blackshields do not. Even if it is a group of Death Guard that for wahtever reason have splintered from the main Legion and painted their armor pink and blue and call themselves the Electric Boogaloo, because they no longer identify themselves as Death Guard, they are now Blackshields.

 

That group of Word Bearers and Night Lords who got separated from their Legions while fighting the Ultramarines and decided to band together, but still identify themselves as separately being Word Bearers and Night Lords? Those guys are Shattered Legions.

[Dizzyeye01]

 

I'm guessing that you'll need to get the Great Crusade book to be able to run these guys? Cause if so it's gonna be a while till I can get both books and have not sold any organs.

Yup, ya need both.

 

Well looks like I'll be waiting to get a proper job to get a hold off of the rules.

 

On another note has anyone thought of mixing in these guys with parts from space marines across the board to give them a more rugged look for Blackshields?

[Kastor Krieg]

They probably wouldn't even identify themselves as such. "Blackshield" seems to be an after-the-fact, third party term, a catch-all burlap sack to contain all those who had a reason to strike their parent Legion colors and went through with it.

[Kol Saresk]

They probably wouldn't even identify themselves as such. "Blackshield" seems to be an after-the-fact, third party term, a catch-all burlap sack to contain all those who had a reason to strike their parent Legion colors and went through with it.

Exactly. So is the term "Shattered Legions". But how the term applies to them makes all the difference between one group and the other.

[Sete]

Dibs on the Revenants. Death Guard survivors from Istavan. ;)

[Dragonlover]

'The Emperor abandoned us. Our fathers abandoned us. Horus sent serpents with honeyed tongues to sway us. The galaxy burns, and brotherhood is the only constant.

 

We are the Crimson Thunder, and we strike where we will.'

 

Basic plan: although the Iron Warriors are known for leaving garrisons behind, all the Legions did it to a degree. Of course, many of these garrisons kept in contact for reasons of mutual aid and information sharing. After all, it gets lonely in the fringes.

 

When the Heresy breaks out, all these little pockets of Astartes share what information they have and attempt to contact the main bodies of their respective Legions. When no response is forthcoming (other than the honeyed lies of agents of Horus) they agree to gather and strike out into the galaxy.

 

It's a bit rough around the edges, but it let's me paint a mix of Loyalists while flipflopping between Loyalist and Traitor from a rules perspective. Why don't they just try to rejoin their Legions? They've been left on some Emperor-forsaken backwater for thirty years. They're clearly not model legionnaires!

 

I'm thinking keep the Legion colours, but have red lightning bolts instead of the Legion symbols. Means I don't have to freehand nine different logos or mess around with transfers.

 

Dragonlover

[depthcharge12]

It's be a cool idea to have a rogue Astartes in a similiar fashion to Fabious Bile that discovers the gene template for making thunder warriors.

 

That, or a remaining group of outlawed Thunder Warriors (don't know how they survived) called the Remnants who seek revenge against the Imperium for their extinction.

[Sete]

It's be a cool idea to have a rogue Astartes in a similiar fashion to Fabious Bile that discovers the gene template for making thunder warriors.

 

That, or a remaining group of outlawed Thunder Warriors (don't know how they survived) called the Remnants who seek revenge against the Imperium for their extinction.

One of them Thunder Warriors got his grubby hands on a "cure". Expand on that or on a similar ocurrence.

Im actually thinking after making a Small Force of Blackshields, to do a chapter for of unknown founding for 40k Later on ;)

[Kol Saresk]

If the cure is a legitimate story. After all, that same Thunder Warrior believed he was the only survivor, but Betrayal has another group of Thunder Warriors being taken out by the War Hounds. So who needs a template when you can have the real thing?

[Sete]

I didn't knew about those ones.

But the possibilities are awesome.

[Skalpynock]

If the cure is a legitimate story. After all, that same Thunder Warrior believed he was the only survivor, but Betrayal has another group of Thunder Warriors being taken out by the War Hounds. So who needs a template when you can have the real thing?

That was pretty early in the crusade, though. I guess by the time of the Heresy, there are even less Thunder Warriors still alive, and even less able to fight. However, since we have no idea what the original numbers of the Thunder Warriors were, we can go with whatever amount of survivors we need.

[Kelborn]

Oh, that's tasty. :P

 

I see lots of incoming Black Shield projects composed of Astartes or Thunder Warriors. I see 70% of all players abandoning their armies to model their own Black Shields. I see an universe of anarchy and chaos (not the Chaos, just the normal chaos). I see unlimited possibilities. I see. . . home. :_)

 

Think that introducing the Black Shields was one of the best things FW did until now.

 

@Sete: Yeah, I thought about that as well. Maybe my Black Shield band of brothers take an abandoned outpost for themselves and start to recruit the natives, leading to the creation of a new chapter. :D

[Dragonlover]

Rules question: that reaver squad has two attacks basic. Are they including the two ccw bonus there, or do they actually have three attacks each?

 

Dragonlover

[HaSY]

Dibs on the Revenants. Death Guard survivors from Istavan.

Is it true? Angels Revenant?

[depthcharge12]

If the cure is a legitimate story. After all, that same Thunder Warrior believed he was the only survivor, but Betrayal has another group of Thunder Warriors being taken out by the War Hounds. So who needs a template when you can have the real thing?

 

Yeah I think that Arik Tyranis Thunder Warrior might be hanging around for the siege of Terra for some sneaky awesome plot we never saw coming.

 

I see the Thunder Warriors abducting people and forcing the process on them similar to the Super Mutants from Fallout (personal interpretation, no real basis) to make more in an effort to strike back in revenge - or even weirder yet - possibly carry on the Great Crusade in futility despite being outlawed.

 

I know I've said it before, but this stuff is really up Heathens alley, and that grumpy old parajumper would be having a field day with this stuff. I miss him like Ferrus Manus misses his cerebellum.

[Sete]

Dibs on the Revenants. Death Guard survivors from Istavan.

Is it true? Angels Revenant?

Uh? I dont think so xD But hey! Great idea. I choose Revenants( nothing to do with the movie) because it means back from the dead. So Death Guard back from the dead :p

[Brother Aiwass]

Hi! Looong time out of the hobby.

A month ago I started to want a piratical astartes force, mainly based on a rogue Red Corsair company who got pissed by Huron. Mostly because I wanted a mixed warband of loyalist and traitors toguether, but mostly unaligned with chaos. So I buyed BaC to get nice models on the cheap.

 

Then suddenly Black Shields. Official rules for space pirates? Yay! But I wonder how well they will face against 40k armies (wich will be my friends armies, mostly tau, tyranids, necrons and blood angels) as the 30k stuff get expensive (points wise) very fast. Also I'm undecided between the special rules Orphans of War and Outlanders, what are your thoughs on these?

[Dizzyeye01]

I think both rules are great for giving character for a persons' force since one Black Shield force is not like the other.

On another note for those of you wanting to have something Black Shieldy in your sigs I've got this image right here if you wanna use it

http://i.imgur.com/EP7YCrU.png

Edit: Image should fit now :)

[Brother Aiwass]

On a side note, I'm shifting to an Orphans mercenary force because of the Metal Gear speech you posted.

[Dizzyeye01]

Sounds cool to me, I'm personally running a force (Not sure on rules yet, more concerned about the fluff) of Blackshields that are just trying to create a safe heaven from the Heresy, going out from their base of operations to either recruit more guys or generally running for supplies :)