Nusquam Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 So I've been itching to to put my new Atrapos to work. Having to ally Knights is a bit of a drag if I just want one so I figured I'd include all of them. Then splash in some RG. The idea is that the knights are a spearhead with the RG Recon Company providing support. Since the ReCO only needs an additional Recon Squad as a primary I figured it would make for great allies. Shrouded keeps them in play so the knights can move up. The Paladin stays close to whichever knight would benefit from interceptor the most, depending on enemy reserves. Or both if I get stuck going second and face T1 Perty bombs. I might free up points for an icarus, and/or swap the stormspear, on the Paladin for more AA. Another thought is putting the Paladin as a troop and the Crusader as an Arbalester. Thoughts? Questoris Knight Crusade Army (Primary) (1365pts) HQ (495pts) Seneschal (495pts) Cerastus Knight-AtraposOccular Augmetics Elites (400pts) Preceptor (400pts) Questoris Knight PaladinRapid-fire battlecannon Troops (470pts) Scion Martial (470pts) Questoris Knight CrusaderRapid-fire battlecannon and Heavy Stubber, Stormspear rocket pod, Avenger Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Allied) (1135pts) HQ (110pts) Legion Centurion (110pts) (Goes with Vets inside Eagle)Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Cameleoline, Power Fist ConsulDelegatusRecon Company Troops (480pts) Legion Reconnaissance Squad (255pts)9x Legion Space Marines, 9x Sniper Rifle Legion SergeantInfravisor, Sniper Rifle Legion Tactical Support Squad (225pts)9x Legion Space Marines, Volkite Calivers Elites (290pts) Legion Veteran Tactical Squad (290pts)2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web, 9x Legion Veteran Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, 2x Power Weapon, Sniper Legion Veteran SergeantArtificer Armour, Power Weapon Fast Attack (255pts) Legion Storm Eagle Assault Gunship (255pts)Single Missile Launcher, Two Twin-linked Lascannons Legion Legion AstartesXIX: Raven Guard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 cant take the atrapos unless you take 2000 other points of knights im fairly sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4316816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Its 0-1 per 2k. Like how master of the legion is but per 1k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4316826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 oh my , you just got me even more hated at my local store friend Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4316883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedratsailor Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Delegatus consul's have to take legion veteran squads as compulsory troop choices. via HH6 Retribution pg 233. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4317102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 ^ Isn't that only when running the "Chosen Duty" Rite of War? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4317288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 It is just for the chosen duty RoW, if you use your delegatus to take a different RoW you don't have to take vets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4317358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 I don't even know where this thread went ha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4317878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Doesn't Delegatus have to be the warlord? Also the rite requires an additional compulsory choice, so you need two even as an allied detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4318822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted February 25, 2016 Author Share Posted February 25, 2016 It only needs an additional troop as a primary detachment. As for must be warlord, I went with allied can't be warlord(can't>must in permissive rule set). Other characters got FAQ'd so the 'must be' is only in case they're in the primary, like Azrael. That's my logic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4318978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Actually, amusingly enough, the way it's worded is: "The force's Primary Detachment must include an additional compulsory Troops choice, which must be filled by a Legion Recon Squad." Since "force" refers to your whole army, it sounds like you need to take a Legion Recon Squad as another compulsory choice in the primary detachment, which basically means you can't take the Recon rite as an ally to any army that doesn't have recon marines of its own. :D The warlord must vs. can't thing is a head-scratcher, for sure, but the FW FAQ resolved a similar must vs. must conflict in warlord traits by saying you can't do it at all, so I would lean towards you not being able to take Eidolon or whoever as an allied detachment and get around martial pride. Azrael? GW rulings mean less than nothing in AoD. When's the last time they even made any new rulings? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4319832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 I love FW and their rules, but their lack of editing and clarity is tough. Also RoW buffs/restrictions don't carry over to other detachments anyway right? Worst case scenario I take a Praetor and dump a few recon marines when it comes to the HQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319642-knightsrg-reco-ambush-25k/#findComment-4319836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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