bluntblade Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Never confirmed, but it's the leading theory Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4451579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Most likely as they got the Nicor, the ship of Arkhas Fall, a terran RG praetor who, along with all terrans, was exiled by Corax. But RoMad allready mentioned that their origin is more "complicated". RobMac 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4451609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMac Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Carcharodons are descendants of Terran Raven Guard, right? As Kelborn says, it's complicated and, alas, I can't say just yet what their full origins are. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Carcharodons are descendants of Terran Raven Guard, right? As Kelborn says, it's complicated and, alas, I can't say just yet what their full origins are. If I might be so brash to ask, is an eventual reveal ever planned? So many of the mysteries in 40k are left unanswered, and most times it seems it is because an answer does not exist (or at the very least appears not to,) but evidently there is an answer to this particular mystery, as you have said on more than one occasion. In any event, I look forward to reading this. I don't pick up too many BL books nowadays (though I may go out and purchase the Beast Arises series fairly soon) but this looks like it should be a fun romp with some good, desperately needed insight into the structure and character of the Space Sharks. RobMac 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMac Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Carcharodons are descendants of Terran Raven Guard, right? As Kelborn says, it's complicated and, alas, I can't say just yet what their full origins are. If I might be so brash to ask, is an eventual reveal ever planned? So many of the mysteries in 40k are left unanswered, and most times it seems it is because an answer does not exist (or at the very least appears not to,) but evidently there is an answer to this particular mystery, as you have said on more than one occasion. In any event, I look forward to reading this. I don't pick up too many BL books nowadays (though I may go out and purchase the Beast Arises series fairly soon) but this looks like it should be a fun romp with some good, desperately needed insight into the structure and character of the Space Sharks. As you say, this mystery does have an answer, though it's not been decided yet whether it'll ever actually be revealed. We'll have to wait and see I'm afraid. Augustus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Thanks for contributing to the BnC! Are there any novella tie ins planned? RobMac 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMac Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Thanks for contributing to the BnC! Are there any novella tie ins planned? That would be telling Augustus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Carcharodons are descendants of Terran Raven Guard, right? As Kelborn says, it's complicated and, alas, I can't say just yet what their full origins are. Calling it now, loyal night Lords and RG :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Carcharodons are descendants of Terran Raven Guard, right?As Kelborn says, it's complicated and, alas, I can't say just yet what their full origins are. Calling it now, loyal night Lords and RG That would be pretty sick! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Possibly two bkack shield forces? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Possibly two bkack shield forces? Could be, they both have the same skin and eye types or very similar, plus NLs teeth sharpening for the more fearsome look, and a mingling of the RG cultural styles on the armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Well, that would be the only possible and reasonable way of making their origin more complicated. Think that terran Night Lords and Raven Guard would be a good match. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Terran RG and Terran NL? As I recall, Terran NL and Nostraman NL got along pretty well . . . weren't divided like the RG Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 While Chaos can arrive unannounced on the unsuspecting so to can the forces of the Imperium. Only the Carcharodons are looked upon by the people they have come to save with dread and terror as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 While Chaos can arrive unannounced on the unsuspecting so to can the forces of the Imperium. Only the Carcharodons are looked upon by the people they have come to save with dread and terror as well. What about the Flesh Tearers, Executioners, Minotaurs...all the other chapters with the "we are savage, hear us roar" theme? Augustus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 Indeed, they came along very well but I can't imagine a force of loyal NLs born on Nostramo. I assume that terran born are more connected to the Emperor, his Crusade and the idea of the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4452939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 A group of idealistic Nostramans is a pretty cool idea actually JH79 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4453001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Eremon Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Who says they had to be loyal to the Emperor? Loyalty in a Legion of Traitors-to-be is not the one and only route to exile. All it really takes is for someone with the authority to exile to want to do so, and there must have been many ways that could happen in a Legion led by officers that were almost as aggressively antagonistic against each other as anyone else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Having an "agressive" "scary" Chapter appears to be all the rage these days. Used to be just the Space Wolves, Night Lords and World Eaters that had that mantle! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I doubt they're loyalist Night Lords so much as elements of their geneseed, plundered by the Ashen Claws Blackshields (ref HH6: Retribution, The Scouring of the Nostramo Sector). My personal theory is that at some point the Ashen Claws join back up with the Nomad Predation fleet under Arkhas Fal, using Night Lords geneseed to help replenish their numbers from the havoc of the Heresy. Cut to ten millennia later of intermingling and you have a Chapter with physical characteristics of both Legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Is intermingling a thing generally? Only canon instance I know of is Honsou, who's the handiwork of Fabius Bile Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted August 1, 2016 Author Share Posted August 1, 2016 Is intermingling a thing generally? Only canon instance I know of is Honsou, who's the handiwork of Fabius Bile It's possible after 10 millenia ...or some Carcharodons have NL geneseed and others have RG geneseed, no actual geneseed combo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) Most of the Traitor Legion are harvesting loyalists geneseed to replenish their numbers as their own has mutated over time: - Red Corsairs in the NL trilogy - Alpha Legion + Emperor's Swords - Crimson Slaughter + Dark Angels - and so on Edited August 1, 2016 by Kelborn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4454784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
animal310 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I would like to see loyalist chapters that are descended from the loyalist elements of all the traitor legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4455267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted August 4, 2016 Share Posted August 4, 2016 Hopefully it would be a dark, scary and interesting story. And thank's all the Gods it's not SW again! Augustus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/320328-carcharodons-novel-by-robbie-mcniven/page/2/#findComment-4457827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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