Gorlak Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hello all, The breaking news this evening seems to be the impending update to Death from the Skies supplement and alongside it's release new Marine and Ork aircraft. The Marine flyer is called the Stormhawk and, judging by the picture below, may well be available to us children of Sanguinius! Image posted by Third Eye Nuke on Facebook More info on the new releases can be found at the usual sources, but for quick access can be found here:http://www.miniwars.eu/2016/04/death-from-skies.html Looks like those Storm Ravens and Storm Eagles might be getting some escorts! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 I'm sorry to say that's an obvious photoshop from the Ultramarines one: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSauce Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 But I want to believe! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlak Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Well not only is that disappointing as a BA player, but as a heavy photoshop user I am ashamed I didn't spot this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Excitement, quickly followed by disappoint... It's like reading our codex for the first time all over again! EDC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Well the word isn't out whether or not the BA can use the new flyer (without allying), but I'm not keeping my hopes up too much... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrne Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Bummer lol :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Well I just read a rumor on naftka? About BA stuff coming soon... So that's cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4375794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I wonder what would happen if a pilot fell to the red thirst completely while flying... Or even the black rage... Hmmmmmmm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I wonder what would happen if a pilot fell to the red thirst completely while flying... Or even the black rage... Hmmmmmmm Kamikaze Storm Ravens? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Lands, jumps out, murders things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ushtarador Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 It would be glorious! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That Stormhawk - so, so, sooooooo ugly!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav1892 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That Stormhawk - so, so, sooooooo ugly!!! Agreed looks like the barsteward love child of the storm talon and a land speeder tempest Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That Stormhawk - so, so, sooooooo ugly!!! Agreed looks like the barsteward love child of the storm talon and a land speeder tempest It is extremely fitting for the Space Marine aesthetic, though. The Imperium loves inefficient but powerful things (both in terms of strategy and design), and this definitely fits the mold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4376839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Apparently there's 23 updated datasheets, one for every flyer. Here's to hoping they add the Stormhawk and/or Stormtalon to the BA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafen IX Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Apparently anything not a fighter loses skyfire. So I hope we do get these stormhawks (also I love the model). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If we don't get the flyer, hopefully they update the storm wing rules. My understanding is we can always add that to our roster to gain access to storm talon and thus, possibly, the new flyer??? Edit: Reading the storm wing rules, not sure if we can actually field this formation. There is no faction assigned but does say you take units from Codex: space marine so I have no clue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ovbov Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I hope we don't have to become "Red Marines" to use this like everything else recently. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 If we don't get the flyer, hopefully they update the storm wing rules. My understanding is we can always add that to our roster to gain access to storm talon and thus, possibly, the new flyer??? Edit: Reading the storm wing rules, not sure if we can actually field this formation. There is no faction assigned but does say you take units from Codex: space marine so I have no clue. The faction is codex space marines (as you may aswell use the one in the codex) so it's essentially allied space marines contained in their own little 3 model detatchment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 Nothing from any book but BA can be used by us unless it specifically says it can (maybe Forge World stuff is an exception to that, but I haven't read any FW rules so I don't know). If it is unclear, assume it can't be used by us, because odds are it can't. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 I hope we don't have to become "Red Marines" to use this like everything else recently. If we became red marines with our own chapter tactics (FC, DoA and/or 5th Ed Descent of Angels) and units, I#d be all for it. Nothing from any book but BA can be used by us unless it specifically says it can (maybe Forge World stuff is an exception to that, but I haven't read any FW rules so I don't know). If it is unclear, assume it can't be used by us, because odds are it can't. FW is no exception, but many FW units either have a BA analogue or are faction BA anyways. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4377423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Seeing how this has evolved into "our" DftS thread: Blood Angels have their own section and their own Appendix. I would like to know why/how the BA Stormraven in this book differs from a regular Codex Space Marines one and what the BA Appendix entails. There's an entire sub-section of the B&C that would greatly appreciate this and sends their thanks in advance! Blood Angels Storm Raven costs 25 points more now.... No just kidding. There isn't the slightest difference between the entries. Not the slightest. This is kind of a different question but do you know if the Storm Hawk is mentioned as being a valid replacement in any existing Formations? IE: Stormwing, Raptorwing? Nope. There is a new formation with the Stormhawk in it, the Strike Wing, but appart from that nothing. After all the Stormhawk has a very specific role compared to other flyers. Thank you for your prompt reply! I assume the Appendix is just saying what the weapons are, etc? Furthermore, would you kind enough to disclose what role the BA (or any for that matter) Stormraven is supposed to be and what that role means please? It is assault. Basically it means it shots faster than bomber but slower than fighter in the dogfight phase, plus it get snap shot during dog fight more often than the fighter. Appart from that, based on the flying formation you choose, each type of craft has a different bonus (given the huge number of combinations possible, I won't list them here). But don't worry, my Blood Angel brother, you are still a special snowflake: you have your very own Squadron Leader table ! A final, unrelated question if I may; are you aware of any difference between the Fighter Ace tables in this book and those published in Shield of Baal: Leviathan (which previously updated the old DftS book rules)? After a thorough comparison, the Marine table is awesome, the BA is sub-part in my opinion. Anyway, I think (not sure) there is no more fighter ace table as an upgrade. Now it's a campaign reward (5 victories required, one victory is killing a flyer or FMC). Instead there are those squad leader tables. (3 choices for each faction, rolled like a Warlord trait). I do not own SoB. Link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4383239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Of course our table sucks. Why would you expect any different Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4383277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Of course our table sucks. Why would you expect any different You, yes, you.....you want some decent BA rules ? i got some on another topic, but don't say anyone about it^^. No overprices or anything, only righteous and GOOD balanced things....i'm sure you will find something you like.^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321801-stormhawk-flyer-appears-to-be-coming-to-ba/#findComment-4383321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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