Jolemai Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Of course our table sucks. Why would you expect any different Psst, hey kid, wanna buy some good BA rules? FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Of course our table sucks. Why would you expect any different Psst, hey kid, wanna buy some good BA rules? FIFY Dang, out of likes :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 ....Greeeeeeeat So, anyone else who is NOT using the new book going to not apply the Raven tax? Yeah me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Stage 5: Acceptance "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Honestly, I am not that phased anymore. Homey don't need to fly planes, no matter what our fluff says. Just gonna stick to my BA lists that have all units starting on the board. Speed and Daring will be our best weapons against all these new shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On the upside, there might be a reason for me to own two Stormravens now. Added bonus: I can take them in a Flier detachment of whatever the name and leave my three Heavy Support open to my Predators and Devastators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Do you know what, I think I'm finally done. Not getting the Storm Talon after everyone else got our Raven, that hurt, Getting a new Codex without the AA all the other Marines got and still no Talon stung. Having that Codex pretty much invalidated after a few months by the Codex boys getting points cuts, stats boosts, extra weapons (for the Assault squad of all things) and free stuff all over the board really cut my game frequency, but this? Remove the ONE decent Skyfire platform we have outside of fortifications and introduce a new Marine fighter we don't get during a 'Book of all the planes' that's the ideal time to sort out all our air problems. Sorry Dante, your boys are joining the WFB armies in the attic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 On the upside, there might be a reason for me to own two Stormravens now. Added bonus: I can take them in a Flier detachment of whatever the name and leave my three Heavy Support open to my Predators and Devastators. There's an idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 That is some real loyalty there, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Do you know what, I think I'm finally done. Not getting the Storm Talon after everyone else got our Raven, that hurt, Getting a new Codex without the AA all the other Marines got and still no Talon stung. Having that Codex pretty much invalidated after a few months by the Codex boys getting points cuts, stats boosts, extra weapons (for the Assault squad of all things) and free stuff all over the board really cut my game frequency, but this? Remove the ONE decent Skyfire platform we have outside of fortifications and introduce a new Marine fighter we don't get during a 'Book of all the planes' that's the ideal time to sort out all our air problems. Sorry Dante, your boys are joining the WFB armies in the attic. Do what i do, dude. Paint those biyatches up red and fly em BA colours. We can use SM formations no sweat. Its just the name. I have zero shame in doing that. Have rocked a storm wing formation, and now more recently, the double talon, speeder formation too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Aircraft I can actually understand the red marines (but I still hate the idea of doing that), because Red Thirst won't really be noticeable there anyways. And their martial skills aren't as apparent when they aren't in melee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrne Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Nevermind read it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 25 Point increase with no gain? Wonder if it's only our SR or do marines/ GK get it. That's super dog poo! I believe that was a joke from the Ultrachap doing the q&A, we merely get a worse 'special pilot skill' table than other Marines. It's not so much that we can't game the system by taking 'Red Marines', it's just the sheer laziness and lack of care and attention from the studio that makes it feel like we need to. I've been playing the Blood Angels as my primary army since second edition and it's never felt like such a neglected afterthought from GW until the last couple of years where to be honest even a simple FAQ as a sign that they cared would have done so much to raise spirits, but instead it's 'nuh uh, if you want the good stuff, pretend to be an Ultramarine like a good little boy.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 The 25point increase was a joke. The frenchy was trolling. Dont take the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 ................That's really bad of him :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Do you know what, I think I'm finally done. Not getting the Storm Talon after everyone else got our Raven, that hurt, Getting a new Codex without the AA all the other Marines got and still no Talon stung. Having that Codex pretty much invalidated after a few months by the Codex boys getting points cuts, stats boosts, extra weapons (for the Assault squad of all things) and free stuff all over the board really cut my game frequency, but this? Remove the ONE decent Skyfire platform we have outside of fortifications and introduce a new Marine fighter we don't get during a 'Book of all the planes' that's the ideal time to sort out all our air problems. Sorry Dante, your boys are joining the WFB armies in the attic. For what it's worth we have many anti-air options: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/?do=findComment&comment=4378508 I should also point out that until the next BRB rolls around, DftS remains an optional Supplement; no one is making you purchase anything and unless you are playing in tournaments (which have their own house rules anyway), I fail to see a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't even like this new flyer... but is it already official that we can't use it? ...they did give us access to the newest psychic powers, although I'm quite sure whoever wrote those was high as a kite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 they confirmed on their facebook group that its codex marine only, however also notes that you can easily include them in other armies as allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Stage 5: Acceptance "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment." Honestly, I am not that phased anymore. Homey don't need to fly planes, no matter what our fluff says. Just gonna stick to my BA lists that have all units starting on the board. Speed and Daring will be our best weapons against all these new shenanigans. And a pair of Deredeo's... "Eat my targeting system you filthy Xeno's!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMek83 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 BA's are bound to get new unit sometimes. It aswell might be Stormhawk I hope but I won't hold my breath for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I'm totally fine with not getting anything new, we already have lots to differentiate us and give character to the Chapter... I just want updated rules/formations/etc. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 We can use the new flyer, just as part of the new formation that would let us take two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 For the record I think the Stormhawk look like crap. First of all the reality of having a pilot view as that of a tank driver!?!? and its a fighter of all types!?!?! ..... I have faith we will get some things down the road to fix some of our legitimate concerns. But ya know what, even if they leave us hanging in the breeze, I'm still staying Blood Angels because the fluff and stories haven't changed and I like to spite people who do me wrong :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 For the record I think the Stormhawk look like crap. First of all the reality of having a pilot view as that of a tank driver!?!? and its a fighter of all types!?!?! ..... I have faith we will get some things down the road to fix some of our legitimate concerns. But ya know what, even if they leave us hanging in the breeze, I'm still staying Blood Angels because the fluff and stories haven't changed and I like to spite people who do me wrong To be fair, as long as they have sensors that can provide them with the information they need, they won't need more than that. It's actually more probable that in the future, that's what you are more likely to see. It just depends on how good the sensors and cams are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Maybe we'll see a BA specific Flier with the new Codex. A guy can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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