Rafen IX Posted May 5, 2016 Share Posted May 5, 2016 Since the stormraven lost skyfire our codex now only supports flak missiles, this thread has skyrocketed in importance to me lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4386178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Seeing as those rules are fully optional, you can use either: 1) BA codex stormraven, which is 1 per heavy slot, no formation flying, but has skyfire. 2) Supplement stormraven, 1-4 per slot, gains benefits vs ground targets but loses skyfire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Seeing as those rules are fully optional, you can use either: 1) BA codex stormraven, which is 1 per heavy slot, no formation flying, but has skyfire. 2) Supplement stormraven, 1-4 per slot, gains benefits vs ground targets but loses skyfire. Sadly I don't think the rules are optional - they do replace the rules in the rulebook and respective codices. They are now a core part of the game it seems - but of course between gaming groups views on that will differ! No one likes change ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Sadly I don't think the rules are optional - they do replace the rules in the rulebook and respective codices. Does it explicitly say this? Anything not in the main rulebook is an optional extra, as far as I know. Including all codexes - if you don't want to use an eldar army in game, you don't use the eldar codex. If you don't want to add additional lords of war, you don't use escalation. If you don't want dogfighting or flyer formations, then you don't use skies of death (SoD?). Until GW publish an official errata for the BA codex, changing the Stormraven entry to match SoD (like they did when the Stormraven was added to the SM codex and the rules changed slightly), then we continue to use the codex version. As a reference, it's kind of like the Legion of the Damned. They had a C:SM unit entry, but also their own supplement. You could either take 1-3 squads as elites choices in a normal CAD, or you could select them as an allied detachment and get some additional rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Oh aye, its really only as optional as your group make it I guess. The only indication is that it does say something like "use these rules instead" etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You can still get the ability to shoot at full BS in Dogfights, it's not all over for the SR as anti air. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 When you say the rules for the deredeo are "experimental," what does that mean? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Not official yet. Use with opponents permission. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321823-army-building-discussion-anti-air/page/2/#findComment-4389801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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