WarriorFish Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Squatting is a strong term as it stands yes, as our codex is still trucking with it - but it bodes ill that a new publication about flyers has no rules for it. I'd wager this is a sign of a new flyer kit to come, but I'd gladly be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Doesn't make sense that they'd ignore the old Flier, though. Especially with a new kit for it, though I can't see a Vendetta kit coming as there's already a plastic Valk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Squatting is a strong term as it stands yes, as our codex is still trucking with it - but it bodes ill that a new publication about flyers has no rules for it. I'd wager this is a sign of a new flyer kit to come, but I'd gladly be wrong I think you're spot on. It may take a while but I reckon we'll see a Valkyrie/Vendetta dual kit, probably with new weapon options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 GW don't update plastic vehicles, though. It's a waste of money for them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The new Stormhawk is an update to the Stormtalon box to make a dual kit. The Valkyrie kit is ripe for some improvement anyway, even if we're only talking about the instructions :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 GW don't update plastic vehicles, though. It's a waste of money for them to do so. They put an extra sprue in the SM Stormtalon, Ork flier kit and the Imperial Knight to make dual-builds. No reason they can't do the same with the Valkyrie kit, although it would be an expensive kit indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Guys...never attribute to malice what you can attribute to profiteering. Whenever they release a new Codex it will have a "new" Flyer in it. Or they will release a new Codex WITHOUT a new Flyer in it....than release a paid Dataslate for one. Like Chaos Space Marines, Tyranids kinda, and even the girls-who-shall-not-mentioned-because-when-you-do-their-update-gets-pushed-even-further-back, I think IG falls into the category of major overhaul. This year we will see even MOAR Space Marines because that's the cash infusion they need to pay for the overhauls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 For friendly matches you could probably use the valk stats for agility and pursuit and then everything else from the codexEven the 40k fb page suggested thatJust check with TOs if you want to use it in a tournamentAlthough hopefully it gets an official re-release soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The Vendetta isn't squatted. It has no rules in the book (because it has no model) but it is repeatedly mentioned alongside the Valkyrie in the background section. They wouldn't be mentioning it if they were planning on removing it from the game. In GW's Facebook, they said you can use Valkyrie's data for Vendetta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
march10k Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 The Vendetta isn't squatted. It has no rules in the book (because it has no model) but it is repeatedly mentioned alongside the Valkyrie in the background section. They wouldn't be mentioning it if they were planning on removing it from the game. In GW's Facebook, they said you can use Valkyrie's data for Vendetta. I think that's PERFECTLY reasonable...I mean, the vendetta is a valk with troop space traded for lascannon capacitors...the flight characteristics would be almost the same, perhaps the vendetta is a little heavier empty than the valk is full...but other than weight...same bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Begs the question why they didn't just include it in the first place - the Vendetta isn't exactly new - but that'll be good if it works its way into the FAQ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nismogrendel Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Am I understanding this correctly? I can still take a Vendetta using AM codex point cost/etc, then it falls under the same rules in Death from the Skies applying to Valkyries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 That would be the sensible thing, but I've not heard any official word on this that could be more concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Yes the most logical approach Check with your opponent / TO though It has also been suggested as a suitable option by the GW 40k Facebook page (which isn't an official FAQ but close as well get for now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Am i looking at some different Death From The Sky book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It appears so, this Vendetta has a transport capacity of twelve. Does it also mention the Vendetta when talking of the new dogfighting stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Both valks and vends are mentioned in 'Army List' section, the one with points and ugprades. In all other section it is referred simply as 'Imperial Guard'. so i presume Elysian pilots can use this book too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 What book is this? Definitely not the current guard codex or dfts as it doesn't have the new stat lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It does, no other Codex version other than our 6th Ed one had the HP value on it, it was too new for the 5E Codex. Almost definitely a mistake on GW's part, as the fluff section about the Lascannon Capacitors taking up space is still in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted June 11, 2016 Share Posted June 11, 2016 What book is this? Definitely not the current guard codex or dfts as it doesn't have the new stat lines As you can see at the top left corner of that page 'Death from the Skies' is written there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I'm guessing by the formatting that's the previous edition of DFTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 It is indeed the old 6th ed Death fro the skies book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 The Vendetta is included in the Stormcloud Attack app and those lascannons are boss. It was even in a webstore blog last week. I doubt it's going anywhere but GW will have to address that they don't sell a/the kit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontakt Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 To be fair, GW doesn't sell roughriders anymore and they were still put in the codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulrik_Ironfist Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 I think GW will address the issue of not having models for codex entries, and it may not be entirely to our satisfaction. They'll either drop the entry or come out with models for it. In the Vendettas case, I think we'll a slight price increase for the valkyrie model, and an included plastic vendetta upgrade sprue, along with new packaging. Rough riders might get squatted, but then who knows, they might make plastic kits for them and actually make them good. I doubt the vendetta is going anywhere, given how popular it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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