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Angels of Caliban (Spoilers)


Robbienw

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Hi chaps,

My sister went to the London comic com yesterday, I asked her to swing by the forge world stand for me to see if they had anything on pre-release. Lo and behold, they had Angels of Caliban for sale biggrin.png

I haven't had much of a chance to read it yet, only the prologue, but here is the Dramatis Personae and some details of the prologue:

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The Prologue

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More details when I get the opportunity to read more.

Rob

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Only unto page 64 so, but its enjoyable and fast pace so far!

 

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  On 5/29/2016 at 7:33 PM, Taliesin said:

Very very interesting.

 

Quick question, the 5 characters names after Zahariel, Master of Mystai, are these all supposed to be Librarians since they have no title and are mentioned alongside him?

 

I assume thats the case, but I'm not that far in yet and haven't got to the part with these characters

  On 5/29/2016 at 8:13 PM, RedFurioso said:

Thanks for spoilers!

Can you tell me what is Dreadwing specialization? They are Destroyers?

 

Kind of.  They aren't all Destroyers, though there are many destroyer squads called in by the dreadwing commander.  Its not stated in the novel at all, but I would speculate all Dark Angels destroyers are Dreadwing.  They seem to be a scorched earth/force of annihilation type force to me.  They deploy phosphex, rad weapons and warp rift weaponry.  

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b1soul, prose seems good, i am enjoying it so far.  Feeling like the caliban sections might drag a bit though.

 

HaSY, its 398 pages including the afterword.

 

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  On 5/29/2016 at 10:08 PM, Robbienw said:

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 What about Sevatar and duel with Conrad? Spoil me the ending please/ Also does it contain void warfare? Any fleets where?

hm...

six specialized wings...Dread-, Death-, Raven-, Iron- and Stormwing. What is the sixth?

 

Potential 2nd founding successor chapters featuring the wings as they are no part of the DA during the last 10k years.

 

How large is that Legion? oO

We got a sizable force with the Lion, one with Luther, one saving the Space Wolves...seems like it's one of the largest Legions. And why does the DA = AL theory comes into my mind? ;) 

  On 5/30/2016 at 12:11 PM, Kelborn said:

hm...

six specialized wings...Dread-, Death-, Raven-, Iron- and Stormwing. What is the sixth?

 

Potential 2nd founding successor chapters featuring the wings as they are no part of the DA during the last 10k years.

 

How large is that Legion? oO

We got a sizable force with the Lion, one with Luther, one saving the Space Wolves...seems like it's one of the largest Legions. And why does the DA = AL theory comes into my mind? ;)

 

According to HH book 6, the last host is called the Firewing.

 

As for legion size, the First were the largest until the Rangdan Xenocides, where they suffered 50,000 casualties, and then other legions (Ultras, Word Bearers, maybe some others?) overtook them. But by the heresy, the Dark Angels had rebuilt their strength and numbers considerably again.

Robbienw. Due to the plot  you scribed for us (and it is much appreciated - ty) - sadly it seems that the novel is just another filler with nothing major to happen/expand upon!  Imperium Secundus  and Caliban are boring betond measure. Up to the point I will go to the  forums to simply read the synopsis.

  On 5/30/2016 at 1:20 PM, Spaced Hulk said:

  On 5/30/2016 at 12:11 PM, Kelborn said:

hm...

six specialized wings...Dread-, Death-, Raven-, Iron- and Stormwing. What is the sixth?

Potential 2nd founding successor chapters featuring the wings as they are no part of the DA during the last 10k years.

How large is that Legion? oO

We got a sizable force with the Lion, one with Luther, one saving the Space Wolves...seems like it's one of the largest Legions. And why does the DA = AL theory comes into my mind? msn-wink.gif

According to HH book 6, the last host is called the Firewing.

As for legion size, the First were the largest until the Rangdan Xenocides, where they suffered 50,000 casualties, and then other legions (Ultras, Word Bearers, maybe some others?) overtook them. But by the heresy, the Dark Angels had rebuilt their strength and numbers considerably again.

In Wolf King novella, the First Legion have several outposts (Starforts) scattered around the fringes.

Despite the strength of the First Legion, its strength is considerable but not cohesive enough.

b1soul: Guilliman and Sanguinius have an empire to run. I think they also want to avoid a booby trap situation like in Unrembered Empire, when the Lion and Guillian were together and nearly killed by Curzes bombs. Of course when the Lion finds curze, he can call them both in if necessary.

HeritorA: Sevatar is not in this book. The duel with Curze is coming, I haven't got to that bit yet though. I'll tell you the ending when I get there biggrin.png There is no void combat yet, save for the orbital warp rift attack made by the Intolerant. Its not stated what classification of ship the Intolerant is. There is the fleet with the Lion, and the fleet of transports from terra nulls and a battleship with Belath at Caliban. The Caliban based Dark Angels have no fleet, the Lion took it off them.

This novel may be seen as a filler novel by many heresy fans, I can see that. Its based around what is happening on Caliban, which won't play out until after the Battle of Terra, the hunt for Curze and the ending of Imperium Seconds that began in Pharos. However Dark Angel fans will love this novel, its loaded with information on the first legion.

Kelborn: The 6th is the Firewing. Not sure on the exact size of the Legion. There are about 40,000 on Caliban (30,000 new recruits Belath wants to take, and some other units the Lion sent back). Corswain has 30,000. I'm not sure how many the Lion has with him, in Unremembered Empire it was said he had 20,000 Dark Angels ready for a drop assault on Macgragge, but he may have more in his actual fleet (keeping some back for reserves!). So thats 90,000 at least, probably more. Then we have the Dark Angels from the watch stations from the Wolf King novella, with no indication of their numbers. Also, remember The Lion and Corswains forces would have taken casualties fighting the Night Lords in the Thramas crusade, and Corswains forces may have taken casualties fighting Typhons Death Guard.

Past halfway now, up to page 208.  As a Dark Angel fan, this book is really doing it for me!!

 

 

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Wasn't there 10k aboard the Chimera in Wolf King too? If my hunch is correct the top 3 for numbers will be something like Ultras with 250K, Word Bearers with 200K, and dark angels hover a few thousand under that. The only difference is you've got a good third of the legion loyal to Luthor.

Also keep in mind that probably three quarters of the Dark Angel reserves on Caliban haven't seen combat. They're recruits waiting at home til they're called upon, and never participated in the Great Crusade. Their combat experience is confined to conflicts on Caliban itself.

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