Frater Antodeniel Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 A very short FAQ, and since GW clearly close ALL formation to Blood Angels, i think we can expect a codex BA soon....i suppose...i hope... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Grr on the Frag cannon stuff, all else seems to be in line with what was expected. YAY on errata. Holy cow, 5 attacks for cassor????? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well - pretty good overall. Got the stat boosts we wanted! 5 Attacks for Cassor Confirmed! They have done a goof seemingly with the Frag Cannon Wall of Death (as they said previously it would be 2D3), I have commented so will hopefully get a change. The Triple Stormraven formation can, if you want allow first turn charge from deep strike up to the range of: Move on from reserve 6", disembark 6", Deep Strike within 12" of two units (including pod), Disembark 6" from pod, Charge up to 12"So a Dread could feasibly get a good... 32" - 42" of charge range from our board egde... Probably a little less... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-soul Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 This FAQ contradicts previous FAQ that state if your template weapon has 2 or more shot you roll d3 for every shot. In General - Someone at the office summoned the Chaplain Obvioso. But that's for good actually - they seems to update codex pretty soon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Okay! So a comprehensive somewhat realistic wishlist (some of which we know already): Dreads: 4 Attacks base / 13|13|10 AV maybe / Cassor Included in 4A buff/ Frag cannon 2D3 Wall of Death Scouts: WS/BS4 Errata Corbulo: Can we affect our opponents dice/ Seize roll? Psychic: Can wings target Jump Infantry/ Confirmation we can use the AoD Disciplines Relics: Is it one per model? Tech Marine: Wounds/ Points Vanguard Veterans: Heroic Intervention/ Upgrade costs Terminators: Points Costs lowered Vehicle Squads: Maybe implement them with same bonuses as codex, potentially even one for Baals Command Squads: Apoth/ Champ upgrades optional Triple Raven Turn 1 Charge: Yes we can Let me know of anything I've missed! Updated with what was confirmed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Do we have a legit answer now on the Libby dread attacks or is it just some people think the specialist weapon of the fist doesn't apply if using the halberd vs the specialist weapon rule does apply even though you are using the halberd? Scouts and Cassor is cool, though! Edit: ninjaed: I thought the first faqs about rules in general said frag cannons get 2 d3 for over watch or was that something else? I remember specifically seeing something that only applied to the frag cannon in the general rules faq... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well - pretty good overall. The Triple Stormraven formation can, if you want allow first turn charge from deep strike up to the range of: Move on from reserve 6", disembark 6", Deep Strike within 12" of two units (including pod), Disembark 6" from pod, Charge up to 12"So a Dread could feasibly get a good... 32" - 42" of charge range from our board egde... Probably a little less... Charlo, it isn't to Charge you^^, but, Very few to no Blood Angels can actually use this "3 Stormravens formation"....and the fact that the GW give it a Whole page, speak a lot of how far GW is from the reality.... The Current Space Marines formation are far more reliable and usable than this "3 Stormraven formation"..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well - pretty good overall. The Triple Stormraven formation can, if you want allow first turn charge from deep strike up to the range of: Move on from reserve 6", disembark 6", Deep Strike within 12" of two units (including pod), Disembark 6" from pod, Charge up to 12"So a Dread could feasibly get a good... 32" - 42" of charge range from our board egde... Probably a little less... Charlo, it isn't to Charge you^^, but, Very few to no Blood Angels can actually use this "3 Stormravens formation"....and the fact that the GW give it a Whole page, speak a lot of how far GW is from the reality.... The Current Space Marines formation are far more reliable and usable than this "3 Stormraven formation"..... With rumors from reliable sources of a Campagin book coming for BA in the short-mid future, I have no doubt we will be getting decent formations in the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 It also finally puts to bed the "Skies of Fury is Deep Strike" argument (clue: it's not). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 It also finally puts to bed the "Skies of Fury is Deep Strike" argument (clue: it's not). I remember the first time I thought of this, then I read the rules. It's amazing what happens when you read the rules :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 "meh" But nice that they brought scouts in line too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 It also finally puts to bed the "Skies of Fury is Deep Strike" argument (clue: it's not). I remember the first time I thought of this, then I read the rules. It's amazing what happens when you read the rules You have no idea how much "fun" we've had with that one down in the OR... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 So i must admit im slightly peeved that they have made cassor slightly broken for his points cost lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Anyway, I've asked for the following already: Clarification on the Relic Weapons rules Clarification on Librarian Dreadnought attacks depending on which weapon you use Clarification on the Corbulo issue Mentioned the frag canon issue (along with everyone else) Clarification on the Adeptus Astartes Power Deck issue (yes I know the answer here, so don't remind me again!) ... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 Well - pretty good overall. The Triple Stormraven formation can, if you want allow first turn charge from deep strike up to the range of: Move on from reserve 6", disembark 6", Deep Strike within 12" of two units (including pod), Disembark 6" from pod, Charge up to 12"So a Dread could feasibly get a good... 32" - 42" of charge range from our board egde... Probably a little less... Charlo, it isn't to Charge you^^, but, Very few to no Blood Angels can actually use this "3 Stormravens formation"....and the fact that the GW give it a Whole page, speak a lot of how far GW is from the reality.... The Current Space Marines formation are far more reliable and usable than this "3 Stormraven formation"..... I don't get what you mean dude? The FAQ says something that can deep strike turn one can charge using the rule. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Mostly disappointing but yey for Scouts and Cassor. Surprised by the ruling on the frag cannon. EDC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 So i must admit im slightly peeved that they have made cassor slightly broken for his points cost lol Hes a death company dread. So he has one extra attack compared to a normal dread. Normal dreads have 4 so he has 5, like the other DC dreads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedarkprincesnun Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 So i must admit im slightly peeved that they have made cassor slightly broken for his points cost lolHes a death company dread. So he has one extra attack compared to a normal dread. Normal dreads have 4 so he has 5, like the other DC dreads. Yeah but dosent he still have the old blood talons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 It's out. You can find it on the Warhammer 40,000 facebook page, or wait a couple minutes and they'll be here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 So i must admit im slightly peeved that they have made cassor slightly broken for his points cost lolHes a death company dread. So he has one extra attack compared to a normal dread. Normal dreads have 4 so he has 5, like the other DC dreads. Yeah but dosent he still have the old blood talons? Not since the new codex October 2014........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I think he just means that they spent an entire page clarifying a formation no one can really use often due to the requirements when everyone else (other space marines) has better formations anyway... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Anyway, I've asked for the following already: Clarification on the Relic Weapons rules Clarification on Librarian Dreadnought attacks depending on which weapon you use Clarification on the Corbulo issue Mentioned the frag canon issue (along with everyone else) Clarification on the Adeptus Astartes Power Deck issue (yes I know the answer here, so don't remind me again!) ... Asked for clarification on the second frag cannon profile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Did anyone else get their question completely ignored? Across myself and 2 other friends we asked: Is there a reason that tacticals can use a heavy flamer by devs can't? (Can you fix or address this)? Is there a reason that our devs can't take grav canons, but other troop choices have access to grav weaponry (can you fix or address this)? Is there a reason that a frag canon (supposedly a blood angels specialist weapon) appears in an imperial fist miniature in overwatch as a heavy weapon, when it is unavailable Le to blood angels marines as a heavy weapon? (Can you fix / address this). Or words to that effect. All 3 questions completely ignored! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Threads merged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Threads merged. Thanks, I should have checked here first. My bad. Here's the content of the FAQ for those who don't like Facebook or can't find it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/20/#findComment-4431758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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