shandwen Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Or they just did the shortest/easiest/least controversial codex FAQs first. A man can hope... And yet the Plasma Siphon is still iffy! Eldar Starcannons are noted to be plasma weapons in the fluff, yet no effect from the Siphon! Does it also affect Titan level weapons? Otherwise I quite like the rulings so far. Hahahaha, I never even considered how funny the siphon could be. "Nice blastgun there warhound, wouldn't it be a shame if my little gadget meant you can necer fire it?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 A man can hope... Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. SCNR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Back in the day the Plasma Siphon used to pretty much shut down 75% of the Tau army due to some weird wording in the books :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I believe there was a mention that pulse weapons used plasma, and back in the day, that's all you needed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I wonder if they'll address if Corb's reroll can be used to force your opponent to reroll a successful armour save...i seem to remember we had a pretty interesting discussion about that a while ago. EDC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Haha, or if you can actually change the outcome of someone else's Seize the Iniative roll? (for those that remember, there was a "good" debate about that a while back). Thing is, if it wasn't asked I doubt it will be there... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Haha, or if you can actually change the outcome of someone else's Seize the Iniative roll? (for those that remember, there was a "good" debate about that a while back). Thing is, if it wasn't asked I doubt it will be there... Oh Emperor I remember that! Let's hope someone did! If not - I'll post it up on the FAQ when it's posted! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 I'm also extremely interested in the GK FAQ. If it comes out before ours then it will give us a great deal of insight into the content (and by that I mean errata to things like Dreadnoughts, etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Space Wolves also have the outdated Dreadnought stats I think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Dread stats being sorted would be amazing. Myself and a friends GK always have trouble when we battle the newer C:SM Dreads and their large amount of attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Space Wolves also have the outdated Dreadnought stats I think? Correct and bizarrely, this was ignore for their recent campaign outing... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Yes, which makes me hopeful and dreadful of the FAQ/Eratta at the same time. Fixed stats for Dreads and Scouts are my one of my most wanted things for the BA FAQ, next to fixed point costs for Vanguard Vets. I'm not holding out hope that we'll suddenly gain access to Land Speeder Storms or Stormtalons/Hawks through a FAQ/Errata, at least. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 The only one relic/character ruling also sucks for BA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 The only one relic/character ruling also sucks for BA. Aye but it's not the worst - if you're taking Dante it's not so bad as you have either your AP2 beatstick, or double warlord trait rolled into one. Having a backfield support character with the Veritas be the warlord helps keep him safe and reap the benefits, while a front line HQ like a priest can go off stabbing with AP2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4399472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The only one relic/character ruling also sucks for BA. Sucks for everyone, and honestly is it really that bad? The combination I will truly miss is Valor's Edge & Fury of Baal, honestly.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The only one relic/character ruling also sucks for BA. Sucks for everyone, and honestly is it really that bad? The combination I will truly miss is Valor's Edge & Fury of Baal, honestly.. The problem is you can no longer have the Veritas Vitae and any other relic unless you take two HQs and you can never have more than two relics in total unless you take more than one detachment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 The only one relic/character ruling also sucks for BA. Sucks for everyone, and honestly is it really that bad? The combination I will truly miss is Valor's Edge & Fury of Baal, honestly.. The problem is you can no longer have the Veritas Vitae and any other relic unless you take two HQs and you can never have more than two relics in total unless you take more than one detachment. Ok so basically you need 2HQ, 4 Troops and 2 Elites minimum to run double relics.. I get it. But this is pretty much the same thing for everyone, it's not a BA specific nerf. Come to think of it, there are a lot more annoying relics and relic combinations in other armies, I'm overal not too miffed about it.. And as Charlo mentioned, there's always Dante.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Not quite, you need 2 HQ for two relics, it does not matter if they are in the same BSF/CAD, and 2 HQ 4 troops, 2 elites for three or four relics. While this is not specific to BA I think Eldar and Tau need relics much less than we do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Playing Adepta Sororitas (which has ALWAYS had the One Relic rule), you quickly get used to one relic per character, but it still sucks Baalite blast-glass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 As far as I'm concerned the Veritas Vitae is by FAR the best relic. If I can only take one - it's that one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4400649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 Threadromancy, but the SM FAQ is out. Some things from it may gleam into how we could be treated. Stand outs are: Apothecary's and I guess Champions, can purchase an upgraded weapon and then become an apothecary, retaining thier weapons! We have the guys as standard so uncertain if we can upgrade (RAW we cannot still though). Lots of Machine Spirit confirmation, all good news. Confirmed only ONE relic per model. SW/ DA/ GK/ BA models joining C:SM units CANCELS out chapter tactics.... An Auspex can be used in Overwatch! Drop pod doors are NOT ignored for game purposes! I never thought they were, but people insisted. This will be house rules I feel. Helbrect gets D3+1 on the charge due to rage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4414946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 So no more gaining HnR from a White Scars IC? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4414950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Antodeniel Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 12 pages for the RECENT Codex:SM ....this way, i think that i would be faster for GW to redone the Blood Angels codex from A to Z...rather than publishing....12 ? 24 ?....ect pages of FAQ and Errata....^^. (Ok 2 pages at least for the Errata part...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4414969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 So no more gaining HnR from a White Scars IC? If it is granted by chapter tactics, then that exactly. Which is quite good to be honest, we shouldn't be cheesing chapters with mixing. Also the Lib con is nowhere near the level it was, only Ultras get to cast more two powers a turn with it and they aren't mounted. 12 pages for the RECENT Codex:SM ....this way, i think that i would be faster for GW to redone the Blood Angels codex from A to Z...rather than publishing....12 ? 24 ?....ect pages of FAQ and Errata....^^. (Ok 2 pages at least for the Errata part...) I think we'll get Dread attacks, Scout WS/BS aaaaand that's it for Errata. Maybe a classification on the command squad weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4415023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Doloroso Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 Threadromancy, but the SM FAQ is out. Drop pod doors are NOT ignored for game purposes! I never thought they were, but people insisted. This will be house rules I feel. Glad I stopped by this thread ... I was just saying in another thread that I was thinking of gluing drop pod doors shut to make my painting life easier ... but this ruling renders that a rather foolish move since I'd be robbing myself of several inches. Opening doors and painted interior it is! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/4/#findComment-4415049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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