Charlo Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 OHHH MY GODDDD I JUST READ THIS. I HAVE A GAME LATER. IM GOING TO ASK. CASSOR YOUR TIME IS NOW. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Pfft, this means it's possible for a DCD to get eight attacks when the stars align during a charge whilst running Strike Force Mortalis!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Pfft, this means it's possible for a DCD to get eight attacks when the stars align during a charge whilst running Strike Force Mortalis!! actually 9 no? 5 base + 2 DCCW + Rage + Fury of the Forlorn... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Wouldn't it be 7 for the DC? Edit: nvm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Wouldn't it be 7 for the DC? Death Company Dreads have 3 base attacks. so +2 would be 5 and then they have a pair of blood talons or power fists which gives them 2 melee weapons for +1 attack, Rage +2 would = 8 and then Fury of the Forlorn would = 9 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 This can only be summed up with "Hnnng". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 And this: https://youtu.be/Gnj3F7-DcQY Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Yeah I forgot they had 3 base! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedemptionNL Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And don't forget Quickened Librarian Dreads, they get right up there with 7-9 Force weapon attacks on the charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 And don't forget Quickened Librarian Dreads, they get right up there with 7-9 Force weapon attacks on the charge. Shouldn't it be 8-10 if the dread attacks with the force halberd? 2 base +2 houserule +1 two melee weapons +1 charge +1 furious charge + d3 Quickening = 8-10 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlangWhanger Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Possible to use Quickening on Cassor as a character? If so, that's a lot of death... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Cool! Now if I can just get myself to actually assemble my tactical marines, I will actually have Troop choices for the first time since the new 'dex came out . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Possible to use Quickening on Cassor as a character? If so, that's a lot of death... Thats the whole reason to use Cassor, he turns into a blender with a libby babysitter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlangWhanger Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Possible to use Quickening on Cassor as a character? If so, that's a lot of death... Thats the whole reason to use Cassor, he turns into a blender with a libby babysitter. Libby and Cassor used to be staples in my armies... Why did I never think of this!? I know who's being chucked into my next list... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pyrofessional Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 YES FINALY. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2016 Author Share Posted June 15, 2016 We've decided to play +1 attack for now today in my game. Opponent seems scared ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I don't blame them. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We've decided to play +1 attack for now today in my game. Opponent seems scared But the 'official' homebrew solution was +2 attacks! Can you just homebrew an official homebrew like that!? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pyrofessional Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 We've decided to play +1 attack for now today in my game. Opponent seems scared But the 'official' homebrew solution was +2 attacks! Can you just homebrew an official homebrew like that!? Homebrew-ception Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paikis Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 You can home brew whatever rules you like as long as all players agree. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega-soul Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Am I the only one who sad? Generally speaking - I had a couple of games when I had an approval to have a 4 attack base on my Death dread... so I don't need GW approval for houseruling (not to mention it's written in rulebook) And what happens when I'l take all my 5 dreads, take librarians, tell my friend what they do? He will _ me off. How is that conceptually different from - I want my Dante/Seth to have an orbital strike - they are Chapter masters why wouldn't they? But that is ridiculous and unfair. Game already have that many controversal themes - why multiplying this? If they want +2 attack - why not errate this? If they don't - why suggesting contrary? Not to mention how lame it sounded that they couldn't update other codicies - Space wolves tablet enhanced wulfen edition came out after 9 (!) month and it's digital - still no updates for their dreads. They better not to include that Designer's note and leave as it is (2 attack per codex), saving right answer for updated versions. Or made a propper Errata (including hellbrutes) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 An actual errata rather than a weird semi official houserule would've been nice, but at least GW is trying again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phiasco Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Am I the only one who sad? In answer to that question, I'll just copy what I wrote on the rumors/announcement forum: "...these remain the official characteristics until such a time as they are updated." Sooooo, if you play those factions, :cuss you for the next 4-5 years, right? Play it with extra attacks if your opponent lets you? Fine, but why stop there? Just go all out and play a fan made codex. In fact, why buy any GW products at all? Use fan made everything for your games. Army Men Astra Militarum here I come. These anti consumer policies are starting to really hit a nerve. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Gunzhard Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Am I the only one who sad? In answer to that question, I'll just copy what I wrote on the rumors/announcement forum: "...these remain the official characteristics until such a time as they are updated." Sooooo, if you play those factions, you for the next 4-5 years, right? Play it with extra attacks if your opponent lets you? Fine, but why stop there? Just go all out and play a fan made codex. In fact, why buy any GW products at all? Use fan made everything for your games. Army Men Astra Militarum here I come. These anti consumer policies are starting to really hit a nerve. Yesterday your dreadnoughts were 2 attacks, period. Today unless your opponent is totally unreasonable you can use the "Roused to War" rule. I don't see any reason to go negative at this point and "4-5 years" is hardly the trend of Codex releases we've seen as of late. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM1981 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 So the Space Wolves Codex FAQ is out (Don't stop reading this is relevant). One of the last points in the errata relates to their dreads and ours. It states that attacks remain at 2... But suggests an in house ruling update that brings attacks up to 4 to match Dark Angles and codex Space Marines. Apparently they felt dreadnoughts weren't pulling their weight so increased attacks from 2 to 4 after codex BA and Codex SW were published. So basically they won't change the stats, but back the idea that gaming clubs should allow players to negotiate it upto 4 for the sake of parity and common sense. Thought that was worth sharing. URL provided: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1632423303744969&id=1575682476085719 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/323237-gw-faq-dreadnoughts-p11-ba-p19/page/7/#findComment-4420660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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