Raktra Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 We need to make it suitably different from his "golden days" version, when he was a Vigilator, which shouldn't be too hard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4728493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Golden days? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4728508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Before Raktra ruined the Shepherds. He's kicking around in one of the threads somewhere, I'll dig him out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4728538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 Ah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4728556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 Lookslike I need to cook up a proper War Disposition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4832362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Lookslike I need to cook up a proper War Disposition. Not necessarily. Since the Shepherds are just an Insurgo, a few lines would be enough and could be added to the War Materials section. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4832380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 That's a good point. Raktra's decided on their numbers starting around 40,000, considering how diminished they were under in-universe Raktra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4832387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Really shouldn't have used my Primarch name as my username... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4832458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I know how you feel Raktra. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-4833067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 If I were to calculate the Shepherd's size on the DoR, I need some information. One, when did they break away from the Berserkers? Two, how many broke away? Three, recruitment base/methods? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5044947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 30,000 broke away, I think. Need to determine when with Raktra. They mostly use the old Terran recruiting rights and a tithe from the Auretian Technocracy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5044982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Let me know when you have a year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Found the year: 927.M30. Initial Geneseed Stability & Alpha Intake VII: 70%/3,500 marines Pre-Primarch Marines Per Year, Combat Doctrine and Recruitment Base VII: 700 mpy/Narrow & Defensive Improved geneseed stability, Primarch Reforms and numbers at Primarch Discovery VII: 85%/Balanced & Aggressive/85,400 marines (917.M30) (And here is where the fun begins.) 10 years of recruitment at 750 MPY = 7,500 new recruits. For a total Legion size of 92,900 marines. Shepherds split with a starting base of 30,000, leaving 62,900 Berserkers. DoR Legion Size Shepherds: 70%/Balanced (Aurtien Technocracy + Terran rights) & Defensive/800 MPY/113,200 Beserkers of Uran: 85%/Balanced & Aggressive/750 MPY/140,900 ~~~ Surprisingly, the Shepherds hold up well on their own, numbers-wise. They're equal to the Iron Bears in size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Mayhaps something to reconsider in their "total" destruction; it's a good concept, but that many Astartes are hard to wipe out. Maybe found survivors are absorbed by another legion or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Yeah, I'm thinking we see a large remnant end up with the Abyssii, led by Vyrn Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 The numbers are off in a way - the Shepherds are booted out leaving the ‘serkers at about 140k. Unless that’s been changed and I forgot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 I checked the Berserkers' War Disposition today. They do start out the Insurrection with 140,000 marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5045217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 BL Fluff Segment (12k words) Anthology: 30% - Incomplete - (As an Insurgo, will the Shepherds and Stars get a full anthology?) FW Fluff Segment (10k? words) History: 15% - Incomplete? - (We sticking with the shorter layout?) Material Strength?: 15% - Complete? Exemplary Battles: 15% - N/A Crunch Legiones Astartes & Unique Wargear: 5% - N/A Rites of War: 5% - N/A Unique Units: 5% - N/A Unique Characters: 5% - Incomplete - (Khârn and Sejanus have been listed, but Blunt was rethinking that idea.) Demi-Legion Master: 5% - Incomplete Total - O%? I have few but significant questions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324697-ia-shepherds-of-eden/page/6/#findComment-5302415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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