Pearson73 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I think some flamers are a must, both for how they fit the character and doctrine of the XVII, but also as they're fantastically handy in the urban and subterranean warfare of the Shadow Crusade. I would offer to send you my spares from the new Chaos kits (turning them into Kakophoni, so head and shoulder swaps abound) however I'm at uni and my Chaos collection is not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5466240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus_ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Lovely work on the Word Bearers.Like Pearson73 said flamers fit the Legion's style perfectly, but if you can figure out something more sadistic that's even better. Not that there's ever anything wrong with a mass of bolters.I think the new Chaos Marine box offers some really great bits to give the look of a transitional period when used sparingly like added spikes and jagged trims. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5469335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 'I love the smell of Calth in the morning. Smells like... victory.' I think some flamers are a must, both for how they fit the character and doctrine of the XVII, but also as they're fantastically handy in the urban and subterranean warfare of the Shadow Crusade. I would offer to send you my spares from the new Chaos kits (turning them into Kakophoni, so head and shoulder swaps abound) however I'm at uni and my Chaos collection is not. Thanks for the kind thought anyway – much appreciated. I absolutely agree on the flamers – perhaps I'll see if I can lay my hands on some of the new Sororitas ones for that extra visual flair... Lovely work on the Word Bearers.Like Pearson73 said flamers fit the Legion's style perfectly, but if you can figure out something more sadistic that's even better. Not that there's ever anything wrong with a mass of bolters.I think the new Chaos Marine box offers some really great bits to give the look of a transitional period when used sparingly like added spikes and jagged trims. Cheers Markus; very kind. That transitional feel is something I'm keen to explore further on the new additions: The chap on the left has a corrupted pauldron, growing teeth at the bottom. It's pretty subtle, however; I think you'll have to look quite closely to find bits like that. Nevertheless, I hope having such bits scattered in will help make the link between the standard Astartes and the Twiceborn possessed a bit less marked. The new marines are accompanied by some slaves/cultists, too, who help make the size of the Legionaries suitably clear. Qkhitai, TrawlingCleaner, bluntblade and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5469385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 11, 2020 Author Share Posted February 11, 2020 'Twin sacrifices; elder and younger: Monarchia and Calth. United in death.' Plugging away at painting Word Bearers. Three more done bar Legion/Chapter markings (and the inevitable additional details). ...and three more ready to paint: Love to hear your thoughts. bluntblade, Viridia, Isengrin and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5475433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Really liking the pose of the new fellas, always a fan of a slung bolter and a more casual pose. The additional cabling of the flamer bearer is a nice touch too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5475435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I really like the word bearers, they come across as far more recipient of advanced marks of armour compared to your ultras. First picture I thought they were BAs though due to the lighting. How did you find doing the geometry? I found it hard to get away from the circle motif while still looking "word bearers" . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5476248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 13, 2020 Author Share Posted February 13, 2020 Really liking the pose of the new fellas, always a fan of a slung bolter and a more casual pose. The additional cabling of the flamer bearer is a nice touch too. Ta. The Primaris figures are proving a nice fresh canvas. I really like the word bearers, they come across as far more recipient of advanced marks of armour compared to your ultras. First picture I thought they were BAs though due to the lighting. How did you find doing the geometry? I found it hard to get away from the circle motif while still looking "word bearers" . Yeah, getting them bright enough to be interesting, but not so crimson as to look like Blood Angels is a balancing act. The geometric designs are really good fun – I picture star charts and solar systems to give me a starting point; combining concentric arcs with straight lines. Here's the next bunch of marines. I'm working up these five in one go, to try and push me over the edge. It's all downhill from there! Isengrin, BadgersinHills and Viridia 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5476531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isengrin Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Good luck with the batch! Love what you've pieced together so far, the geometric patterns are perfect to provide their smooth armour some character. Have you thought about adding freehands/decals to a few soulder pads? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5477977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Good luck with the batch! Love what you've pieced together so far, the geometric patterns are perfect to provide their smooth armour some character. Have you thought about adding freehands/decals to a few soulder pads? Thanks Isengrin, I agree: those big blank panels need breaking up. I've started a bit of the freehand, and have a whole squad table-ready: +++ Following their shift in fortunes on the surface of Calth, the XVIIth were forced to scramble into the subterranean arcologies alongside those whose world they had murdered. The surviving force was substantial, but as organisationally disrupted as their former Imperial allies. Operating on standard battle protocols, the Word Bearers quickly formed scratch-squads – improvising swiftly to remain battle-ready. As the Underworld War began in earnest, the formidable resilience of Ultramarine Command and Control began to demonstrate itself, and the Word Bearers found themselves on the back foot. Both Legions were forced to reconfigure themselves – and quickly – for neither side could afford the luxury of underestimating their opponents. The Word Bearers were, after all, far from broken. Their fanatical zeal remained underpinned by Legionary discipline, and the Ultramarines continued to struggle in their attempt to adapt to the Word Bearers' broad use of warpcraft. Edited February 19, 2020 by apologist Isengrin, LameBeard and BadgersinHills 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5479384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) + Clotho Harphagos and the Mazzikim + A couple of detail shots of the sergeant and flamer specialist that complete the first squad. ...and the squad en masse. Edited February 24, 2020 by apologist Elzender, bluntblade, Viridia and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5481190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I like how you snuck a gal vorbak into the squad and it doesn't even look out of scale. The only thing that's even a little off is that his helmet grill isn't silver like the rest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5481213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 One... final... push... There. Legion symbols and basing complete; I have a full squad of Word Bearers ready to roll. ...and even better than that, they've got some enemies to fight. While the bulk of work on these Ultramarines has been rebasing, I've also added the tactical markings that have been missing for years – I was holding off until the release of 'canon' info, but then never got round to adding it. At last, they're done. Now just to rebase and detail the rest of the army – yikes! I like how you snuck a gal vorbak into the squad and it doesn't even look out of scale. The only thing that's even a little off is that his helmet grill isn't silver like the rest. Yeah, I was pleased with how well he fits in. I'm half-tempted to match the grille (and shoulder pads), but part of the idea here was to get stuff done, so I may leave him, explaining the variation being down to him being in a different Chapter, as per the background. What do you reckon? LameBeard, bluntblade, Noserenda and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5481509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Maybe push a bit more differentiation then, like helmet colour or chapter symbol? So he clearly looks separate and not incomplete you know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5481621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted February 27, 2020 Author Share Posted February 27, 2020 In this particular example, it's because the Gal Vorbak model was painted ages ago, and when I came to the new ones I decided I wanted to evoke the cover of the game box more closely. I can see the argument for repainting, but having little inconsistencies is something I like to include, as it gives a more grounded, individual feel. With that said, I might tweak it at some point (I still need to add the various Chapter markings). You can see similar bits in the Ultramarines above – while most have the big pads with additional trim, there are a couple who don't; and similarly with the Mark II Crusade-pattern and Mark II Praetor-pattern helms. +++ Meanwhile, away from Calth, something happening on Armatura... bluntblade, malika666, Viridia and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5482656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 For a conversion I'm making, I'd like to gather up some info on how Lorgar looked at various times, particularly during the battle alongside Angron against Guilliman on Nuceria. What are the things that make Lorgar identifiable to you? How do you picture him in your mind's eye? How do you picture his mace, Illuminarium? Do you picture his armour? Is it ornate? What colour? How closely does the Forge World model or the various artworks match your personal vision? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5490346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Lorgar’s look on the cover of Aurelian is the definitive depiction for me. Lines up perfectly with how I picture him in my head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5490503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Lorgar's creation hangs in the balance at the mo... but in the meantime, here's another piece for my Betrayal at Calth boardgame project; Captain Steloc Aethon: Isengrin, BadgersinHills, bluntblade and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5506964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucerne Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 For a conversion I'm making, I'd like to gather up some info on how Lorgar looked at various times, particularly during the battle alongside Angron against Guilliman on Nuceria. What are the things that make Lorgar identifiable to you? How do you picture him in your mind's eye? How do you picture his mace, Illuminarium? Do you picture his armour? Is it ornate? What colour? How closely does the Forge World model or the various artworks match your personal vision? Betrayer's cover comes to mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5506999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malika666 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 In this particular example, it's because the Gal Vorbak model was painted ages ago, and when I came to the new ones I decided I wanted to evoke the cover of the game box more closely. I can see the argument for repainting, but having little inconsistencies is something I like to include, as it gives a more grounded, individual feel. With that said, I might tweak it at some point (I still need to add the various Chapter markings). You can see similar bits in the Ultramarines above – while most have the big pads with additional trim, there are a couple who don't; and similarly with the Mark II Crusade-pattern and Mark II Praetor-pattern helms. +++ Meanwhile, away from Calth, something happening on Armatura... Maybe it's just me, but I feel your Guilliman is superior to the official models. LameBeard and BadgersinHills 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5507286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 'That's quite enough Word Bearers in this Ultramarine blog, thank you very much.' GW's #marchformacragge event got me enthused enough to paint up Captain Aethon. +++ Loquille, Gederas, LameBeard and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5684577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Lovely work! Have missed seeing your stuff on the forums. :) apologist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5684647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) Thank you! I've been updating and rebasing the army recently; basically ticking in those odd little bits and pieces from here and there. In particular, I've given Captain Ventanus a bit of a spritz, with a new head and slight adjustment to his placement on the base. I had to resist the urge to fiddle and tweak much else – that way lies madness! Edited April 1, 2021 by apologist LameBeard, Astartes Consul, Loquille and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5685214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgersinHills Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Characterful update on Remus. This plog and the False Primarch stuff is really making me want to start the true-scale Heresy White Scars project.... but have to hold off for a while. The pain of waiting! apologist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/324752-praetors-of-calth/page/7/#findComment-5685216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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