Aqui Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Unit of the week I - Exorcist Unit of the week II - Imolator Unit of the week III - Repentia Unit of the Week IV - Battle Sister Squad (BSS) Unit of the Week V - The Penitent Engine Unit of the Week VI - The Canoness Unit of the Week VII - Ministorum Priests/Jacobus Unit of the Week VIII - Celestine Unit of the Week - IX - Seraphim Unit of the Week X - Retributor Sisters Squad (RSS) Unit of the Week XI - Sororitas Command Squad (SCS) Unit of the Week XII - The Repressor Unit of the Week XIII - Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave (EBC) Unit of the Week XIV - Celestians Unit of the Week XV - Dominion squads Unit of the Week XVI - Sororitas Rhino Unit of the Week XII - Avenger Strike Fighter (ASF) Contrary to last weeks introduction, this is the last "Unit of the Week) topic! Kros Morotho had the idea of including an often forgotten unit type in 40K - Fortifications. I have to admit, I haven't considered getting some for my Sisters, but now I might just get around to it. Does anyone else use them? If so, which ones? The floor is, for the last time in this series, open Sisters! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I don't know . . . I've heard of using the quad gun that comes with the Aegis Defence Line with a Canoness and a HB command squad. Sounds interesting, and some of the only AA we have available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4480862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 I love an Imperial Bastion with Quad gun, Canoness, and a squad of Ret's. Sometimes with a second CAD set up I will throw Uriah Jacobson in there for extra rending. My recent kill stuff and break things 2k list has Inquisitor Coteaz as well, helps against the free drop pods I have been seeing lately. Â I have plans to do a Sacred Rose all on foot force heavy with retributors, a couple of bastions and a defense line, seems fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4480959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kros Morotho Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 For 75 points, my canoness and 4 heavy bolter Command Squad can ride around in a Repressor. BUT - for nearly the same number of points, they can establish a forward position in a bunker with an ammo dump. It's obviously dependent on play style and the main objective of the game being played, as one is mobile and the other is not, but I have always had great fun using the bunker.  I have wanted to try out a set of promethium relay pipes, but have yet to have the chance... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4481926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016  I don't know . . . I've heard of using the quad gun that comes with the Aegis Defence Line with a Canoness and a HB command squad. Sounds interesting, and some of the only AA we have available.  This is how I have run it many times. Spread out the ADL so you get as much saves as you need, park ADL on slightly back objective, put defensive canoness on it and start popin them aircraft. Her high BS gives great results, and decent shots vs ground targets if nothing is in the air. To compliment, add the Celestine Command Squad with heavy bolters and a hospitaller, make the Canoness your Warlord, and start blasting. Don't clump up of course in case they get some blasts in, but I love it.  I have enough exorcists to make ranged threats real (love 48" range), and I also run two dominion squads and an IK Paladin to keep the heat on. Assuming no IK, the heavy bolters in the CCS keep things getting too close, and they have good range so can keep the heat on as well.  One last option I have used, is ADL+Quadgun and the Vindicare Assassin. Park'em all in the back on a slight elevation, opposite where your main forces are. Trail ADL as far as you need to still gain from it, and go to town with shots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4482781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Erasmus Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I've always been curious, what is it about heavy bolter Command Squads that so many people like? On paper, I don't see any benefit they have over Retributors. Is it just that they don't take up a HS slot, thus allowing you to take more Exorcists/Rets/Penitents? Â Also, back on topic: I've had a degree of success with an Aegis line and quad gun for my Rets. Not only does the rending AOF transfer over to the quad gun, but it also gives me some degree of anti-air firepower. The only drawback is the line itself can get in the way of my tanks, which is one of the reasons why I can see a bastion being preferable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolia Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I've always been curious, what is it about heavy bolter Command Squads that so many people like? On paper, I don't see any benefit they have over Retributors. Is it just that they don't take up a HS slot, thus allowing you to take more Exorcists/Rets/Penitents? Â Â I think that's the main thing yes, also, there is a fifth heavy bolter slot in the command squad. Â Â I also use the ADL as stated above, and like the new containers/ammo/fuel boxed set as it gives a bit of everything . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kros Morotho Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016  Is it just that they don't take up a HS slot, thus allowing you to take more Exorcists/Rets/Penitents?  it is for me, yeah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Both of those: extra heavy bolter and full set of three exorcists. Though I favor four HBolters+hospitaller as it sits in the back with canoness tanking wounds. It is a tough call and I often wonder if that fifth HBolter wouldn't have helped more. Grrrr, decision! Sometimes I just want to take a second CAD or Ally to use everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 As a deviation from the ADL+X, has anyone here used the Imperial Bastion? Pretty much same options, but elevated vs spread out defense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I use the bastion quite regularly. Have the bits incoming to trade in my standard one for a more appropriately churchy bastion. Â It works well for me with a tank canoness, heavy bolter rets and various combinations of Uriah, sometimes Coteaz. Depending on the flavor of list I am running it can get quite expensive and I usually use it as a defense against drop pods/deep striking type alpha strikes vs my parking lot of sisters vehicles. Â Though this is mostly as an adaptation to leaving my exorcists at home in favor of double CAD 6 dominion squad builds. Doesnt always make it in the list, but I do enjoy it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kros Morotho Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 A bare-bones bastion can replace a Repressor, but as a medium building can hold up to 20 models. That, to me, makes it a hidey hole for a maxed out BSS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4485827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Interesting thought. I'm interested to see what your thoughts are on bringing a 20 strong BSS and then hiding it away. Escape hatch shenanigans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4486300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naminé Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Bastions make a good spot for counter assault units to protect your back lines and a shooty unit on top. If the enemy get too close, out come the assault unit to kill them :p  Void shields can help with survivability, though not always worth the points. When I think about it, I've never seen a building get destroyed in a game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4487599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Bastions make a good spot for counter assault units to protect your back lines and a shooty unit on top. If the enemy get too close, out come the assault unit to kill them Void shields can help with survivability, though not always worth the points. When I think about it, I've never seen a building get destroyed in a game. Hum . . . I think the only time I've ever played in a game with buildings was Apocalypse. I think someone destroyed a bastion There's usually just better, squishier targets, I suppose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4487903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The only fortification I've ever seen used is the aegis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/325190-unit-of-the-week-bonus-fortifications/#findComment-4487962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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