Reyner Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Thanks Reyner! What do you do that applies here? And I laughed a good amount v6v77. That darn Alpha Legion, always with the secrets and lies... I am a Software Tester so I can click all the things and remember what I did that broke something :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd like to know on which Non-Alpha Legion Unit taking Power Daggers on would be beneficial. I can't really think of any since they're Specialist Weapons. Any unit with specialist weapons. MC Firedrake thunder hammer perchance. If you're giving them the Stormshield, they cant gain +1A from the Power Dagger. Thus making the Upgrade useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd like to know on which Non-Alpha Legion Unit taking Power Daggers on would be beneficial. I can't really think of any since they're Specialist Weapons.Any unit with specialist weapons. MC Firedrake thunder hammer perchance. If you're giving them the Stormshield, they cant gain +1A from the Power Dagger. Thus making the Upgrade useless. That is true. Im sure its usefull somewhere. Just have to find where. Be nice to have regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd like to know on which Non-Alpha Legion Unit taking Power Daggers on would be beneficial. I can't really think of any since they're Specialist Weapons.Any unit with specialist weapons. MC Firedrake thunder hammer perchance.If you're giving them the Stormshield, they cant gain +1A from the Power Dagger. Thus making the Upgrade useless. That is true. Im sure its usefull somewhere. Just have to find where. Be nice to have regardless. Yeah, it would be nice to have but only if you have the Spare points. Thing is, its for Characters (thus the Sargeant) only. That said: Red Butchers dont need it, they'll have Dual Power Axes/Chain Fists/Thunderhammers instead. Templar dont, none of their weapons are specialist. Palatine Blades have Two-Handed Phoenix Spears, no need. Rampagers have mostly Two-Handed Weapons. SoH Reavers with Power Fists might find it useful. Gal Vorbak might if the sarge takes a Tainted Weapon / Lightning Claw. Gorgon Terminator Sarge might find it useful since he has to have a thunderhammer. Phoenix Guard have Spears. Deathshroud have Scythes. Tyrants might find it useful but they're shooty more than assaulty. Terror Squads dont have Specialist Weapons. Immortals have Shields and are a shooty unit. Invictarus Suzerians have a Shield. Mor Deythan are Shooty. Justaerin might find it useful. Every other Legion Specific unit is not an elites choice and thus ineligible. Of this list, only : Reavers, Justaerin, Gal Vorbak and Gorgons would make actual use out of Power Daggers. Soooo.....yeah >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krikey Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 As far as the Templars go, the champion can take a thunder hammer or a power fist -- both of those are specialist weapons and would benefit from power daggers. ~K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 As far as the Templars go, the champion can take a thunder hammer or a power fist -- both of those are specialist weapons and would benefit from power daggers. ~K But the Solarite Power Gauntlet, which is an explicit option for the Templar Champion, is not specialist and is arguably better than either hammer or powerfust due to gaining a bonus attack from having a Pistol and Master-Crafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'd like to know on which Non-Alpha Legion Unit taking Power Daggers on would be beneficial. I can't really think of any since they're Specialist Weapons. Any unit with specialist weapons. MC Firedrake thunder hammer perchance.If you're giving them the Stormshield, they cant gain +1A from the Power Dagger.Thus making the Upgrade useless. That is true. Im sure its usefull somewhere. Just have to find where. Be nice to have regardless. Yeah, it would be nice to have but only if you have the Spare points. Thing is, its for Characters (thus the Sargeant) only. That said: Red Butchers dont need it, they'll have Dual Power Axes/Chain Fists/Thunderhammers instead. Templar dont, none of their weapons are specialist. Palatine Blades have Two-Handed Phoenix Spears, no need. Rampagers have mostly Two-Handed Weapons. SoH Reavers with Power Fists might find it useful. Gal Vorbak might if the sarge takes a Tainted Weapon / Lightning Claw. Gorgon Terminator Sarge might find it useful since he has to have a thunderhammer. Phoenix Guard have Spears. Deathshroud have Scythes. Tyrants might find it useful but they're shooty more than assaulty. Terror Squads dont have Specialist Weapons. Immortals have Shields and are a shooty unit. Invictarus Suzerians have a Shield. Mor Deythan are Shooty. Justaerin might find it useful. Every other Legion Specific unit is not an elites choice and thus ineligible. Of this list, only : Reavers, Justaerin, Gal Vorbak and Gorgons would make actual use out of Power Daggers. Soooo.....yeah >_> Just a note, I'm pretty sure you can take any legion specific unit (except IC), they don't have to be an elite unit in the first place, you just take them as an elite in the Coils ROW. Dunno if that changes the use of power daggers at all (I don't think you can take power daggers on 'stolen' units anyway though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Youd be able to take power daggers on the stolen units Sergeant since hes a Character with LA(AL). Sooooo yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Okay. So I dunno if there's any legion specific units not in elites that it would be worth taking them on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v6v77 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Youd be able to take power daggers on the stolen units Sergeant since hes a Character with LA(AL). Sooooo yeah. Thats my thoughts. When you take them they gain LA:AL and as such the characters should be able to take the daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krikey Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 As far as the Templars go, the champion can take a thunder hammer or a power fist -- both of those are specialist weapons and would benefit from power daggers. ~K But the Solarite Power Gauntlet, which is an explicit option for the Templar Champion, is not specialist and is arguably better than either hammer or powerfust due to gaining a bonus attack from having a Pistol and Master-Crafted. True, but I was just pointing out that they actually do have specialist options. ~K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torvak Kyre Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What are the chances of you adding an apocalypse force type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted September 20, 2015 Author Share Posted September 20, 2015 Thanks Reyner! What do you do that applies here? And I laughed a good amount v6v77. That darn Alpha Legion, always with the secrets and lies... I am a Software Tester so I can click all the things and remember what I did that broke something Awesome! Well I very much appreciate you using your skills to benefit this project. :) What are the chances of you adding an apocalypse force type? Pretty low. I'm sticking to the way Forgeworld is intending the Force Organization charts to be used. If Apocalypse is featured in a HH book, I will add it. To be fair, you can simply ignore the errors that come up and still use the catalogues accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberTek Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hey, I noticed Gorgon Terminators can take combi-weapons. Is this an oversight? I don't see the option in the red book. Yes, that is an option... May replace a Combi-bolter for combi-weapon. I'm using the LA:CAL black edition, but I would be very surprised if there was a difference. This is wrong. Please go back and re-read the entry. Only the Sargent may replace his combi-bolter with a combi-weapon. Additionally, check the immortals entry is correct. The entuire squad may switch to volkite charger, but only 1 in 5 can switch to other special weapons, currently you allow any number to switch. thanks for all your hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey, I noticed Gorgon Terminators can take combi-weapons. Is this an oversight? I don't see the option in the red book. Yes, that is an option... May replace a Combi-bolter for combi-weapon. I'm using the LA:CAL black edition, but I would be very surprised if there was a difference. This is wrong. Please go back and re-read the entry. Only the Sargent may replace his combi-bolter with a combi-weapon. Additionally, check the immortals entry is correct. The entuire squad may switch to volkite charger, but only 1 in 5 can switch to other special weapons, currently you allow any number to switch. thanks for all your hard work. Oh man, I'm not sure how I mis-read that! Great catch. I've fixed this now. It will be uploaded soon. Just wanted to verify, you're saying that the Immortals are correct, right? It seems they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberTek Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Thanks for getting to this so quickly. immortals are correct, Just me not getting it right :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberTek Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Just noticed Head of the Gorgon RoW is not giving Blessed Autosimulacra for free to all vehicles as it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UberTek Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Contemptor-Pattern-Volkite-Culverin http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Contemptor%20talon.pdf contemptor updated to 3 attacks base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 And what a welcome change it is! THE DREADHEAD LIST JUST WENT UP IN POWER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Little question: Is the mechanicum red book already in?^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hey just noticed their might be an error with the selection of Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaws. I outlined the possible discrepancy here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314674-anvillus-pattern-drop-pods/?do=findComment&comment=4192154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hey just noticed their might be an error with the selection of Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaws. I outlined the possible discrepancy here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314674-anvillus-pattern-drop-pods/?do=findComment&comment=4192154 I brought this point up back on Aug 23rd. Millicant said he'd look into it. WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millicant Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hey just noticed their might be an error with the selection of Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaws. I outlined the possible discrepancy here: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314674-anvillus-pattern-drop-pods/?do=findComment&comment=4192154 I brought this point up back on Aug 23rd. Millicant said he'd look into it. WLK I'm on it! Little question: Is the mechanicum red book already in?^^ No, unfortunately. I didn't purchase the book since I don't play anything remotely Mechanicum. I've been waiting to find another temporary source to complete the cataloguing, but it hasn't materialized yet. Believe me, I'm a little anxious to add it as well. http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Contemptor-Pattern-Volkite-Culverin http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Contemptor%20talon.pdf contemptor updated to 3 attacks base I already put that in, I was so excited! I haven't uploaded it yet cause it's a pretty small change, but I will soon. I also changed it to "Twin-linked" Volkite! Yipee!!! Just noticed Head of the Gorgon RoW is not giving Blessed Autosimulacra for free to all vehicles as it should. You're correct, it isn't annotated. I addressed this a few pages back - but the short version is that I didn't want users with that Rite of War to need to select the Blessed Autosimulacra for each vehicle! That is quite tedious and unnecessary. I may go back at some point and try to have it auto-populate with the upgrade, but please remember my mission statement: this is meant as a list-building tool and the ultimate responsibility for legal and accurate lists/play is on the user. Overall guys, I'd like to apologize for the long delays and slow updates as of late. I am currently our unit's Admin officer and we are on the brink of a deployment, so my life has been.... busy. I expect it will slow down somewhat when I'm overseas (no family to spend time with) so I plan on doing some good work then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Heinrich Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hell yeah Millicant. Thanks for all you do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 thank you and hope I didnt sound like a jerk about it! wasnt intended WLK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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