Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I mean...the transports can only transport things that can freely teleport anyways. Fallen11 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4674997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) I mean...the transports can only transport things that can freely teleport anyways. Which is why its a was a terrible choice, and probably didn't even need to exist at all. It be like Legion players forcing boxdreads into their army totally pointless. Custodes infiltrate or Deep Strike. I fully expect to null deploy against custodes when ever I play them, and go second most of the time. Edited March 6, 2017 by Baluc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) I mean I fully disagree. Our transport is amazing against things like...typhon tanks. And I while yes I will be taking advantage of infiltrate I think it will be reserved for things like hetaerons with the Tribune attached, the tanks I'm liking a lot. I will write up some more list once mine arrive this week hopefully and have them tested against non petty lists. Plus it's just a great load more anti troop dakka against heavy weapon teams etc. Edited March 6, 2017 by Hellex_The_Thanatar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 I mean...the transports can only transport things that can freely teleport anyways. Which is why its a was a terrible choice, and probably didn't even need to exist at all. It be like Legion players forcing boxdreads into their army totally pointless. Custodes infiltrate or Deep Strike. I fully expect to null deploy against custodes when ever I play them, and go second most of the time. What if the opponent is Mechanicum with ample infiltration prevention and lots of interceptor? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 And what if your deep strike rolls suck too Lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I mean...the transports can only transport things that can freely teleport anyways. Which is why its a was a terrible choice, and probably didn't even need to exist at all. It be like Legion players forcing boxdreads into their army totally pointless. Custodes infiltrate or Deep Strike. I fully expect to null deploy against custodes when ever I play them, and go second most of the time. What if the opponent is Mechanicum with ample infiltration prevention and lots of interceptor? Its the same vs SW you deploy outside of the range of their gear. Infiltrate isn't just about being closer to the enemy so you can assault, its about deploying the best possible position to influence the game, which infiltrate puts you in an amazing place to do seeing as how you know exactly where the enemy are going to be. Against Mechanicum and SW its about deploying on or very close to objectives with your troops. Or in positions that make it difficult for the enemy to remove, so in cover, or ruins (since Custodes ignore terrain for the most part), but also putting tough bodies between the enemy and your vehicle hulls and bikes so that you can preserve your hitting power. But, Custodes can also infiltrate with their dedicated transports if need be. Infiltrating Torrent weapons templates are deadly as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Exactly. Infiltrating termies is a gross and lovely idea. Brother Sutek 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Can you infiltrate the transports? Reading the Warlord Trait it seems like you can infiltrate the unit, but the Transport can't. The transport is cheap (for Custodes) and can put out a fair bit of firepower, i'll be using 2 just to get my non infiltrating squads up the board. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Can you infiltrate the transports? Reading the Warlord Trait it seems like you can infiltrate the unit, but the Transport can't. The transport is cheap (for Custodes) and can put out a fair bit of firepower, i'll be using 2 just to get my non infiltrating squads up the board. Yup. And you can't charge anyways since no assault transport. So infiltrate away. Then hop out and burn the things to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 A unit with infiltrate confer it to any dedicated transport they purchase. It's perfectly legal to infiltrate coronus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I thought a few pages back people were claiming the transports were great lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I thought a few pages back people were claiming the transports were great lol. They are I don't understand his stance that they are not good. It is a decent load of guns and protection from some of the things we are vulnerable too. Like horus' str10 blast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Blasts are not that scary with shrikes and 3" coherency. Best case scenario, you roll a hit and cover two models, and after wound rolls and invulnerables, you lose one guy. It will do more damage to the transport than the things it's transporting. Baluc 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Blasts are not that scary with shrikes and 3" coherency. Best case scenario, you roll a hit and cover two models, and after wound rolls and invulnerables, you lose one guy. It will do more damage to the transport than the things it's transporting. Essentially this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 My friend is starting an IH army allied with SL so I'm expecting a highly mechanized Head of Gordon lists at 2000(or 2500 if our painting processes go extremely well). I believe he is planning to spam LR Proteus and possibly a Firedrakes Deathstar too. So any suggestions guys for a Custodes Newbie? Many thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Doesn't really matter, honestly. Pick the models you think are prettiest. You'll be fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Doesn't really matter, honestly. Pick the models you think are prettiest. You'll be fine. Lol , right Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Solerite Gauntlets seem like a good call against all of that. Perhaps Valdor to walk through the Storm Shield terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Speaking of which, how many coronus you guys normally take? Is it necessary to roll every squad of custodes in those fancy cars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronDrake28 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Speaking of which, how many coronus you guys normally take? Is it necessary to roll every squad of custodes in those fancy cars? The way I've played, I usually deep strike or infiltrate any custodes. I've only used Coronus when testing Sagittarum. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raktra Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Each pair of Coronus is another five boyos, and I'm more inclined to grab the boyos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabidbunneh Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm running 2 at 3k to get 12 custodes up the board to support the infiltrating guys a bit faster. I am tempted to drop them for more bodies as the basic troops are horrifically strong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 So how do people feel about infiltrating the Saggitarum, but with Mister Tankibune in tow? He can tank for them while they get into optimum DETH LAZOR position and then split off to murder things on his own accord... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_out Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 This thread is enlightening. Little frustrated I went through the trouble of buying a Coronus when it really isn't a necessary transport-especially without an assault ramp. That money seems to be better spent on Caladius or more dreadnoughts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 This thread is enlightening. Little frustrated I went through the trouble of buying a Coronus when it really isn't a necessary transport-especially without an assault ramp. That money seems to be better spent on Caladius or more dreadnoughts.I feel quite the same way! Friends here really help a lot. Black_out 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/36/#findComment-4675861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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