Rabidbunneh Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Las Pulsars all the way, they add ranged anti tank into an army that has next to none. I really don't like the Flyer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4852995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Uh I must say that Orion Assault Ship looks really amazing. The new pics of it are surprisingly good compared with the old one. Raktra 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4854404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 I was sold on it,but now I think it's a little odd... Cannot argue with its sheer dakka though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4856404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 The Orion is a really nice kit, I picked one up at the open day and it's the first time i have actually wanted to paint the interior detail as well. Usually i just glue the doors shut on vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4856553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 Going to post some full data and analysis in my WIP thread later, but a couple of thoughts and tactical insight from the Throne of Skulls weekend. Most are obvious but nice to see it in practice: Don't ever fight Valdor in combat with anything. Even with your own Hetaeron Guard. He's terrifying. Las-Pulsar jetbikes are good. So good that most people took 6 (I was tame with 3). They are incredible for killing medium tanks and terminators at 36" away without retaliation. Deep Striking a 3 man guardian spear troops choice into the backfield is ace. It's "Cheap" and they can absorb a lot of small arms/ anything not AP2, then mulch pretty much anything there and claim objectives etc. Run them to spread out on the drop. Telemon is perfect with one fist and one gun. Obscene dakka and 4 WS6 I5 S10 AP2 Shred attacks even when charged means it will whittle down the most elite units. Doesn't really care about pens (usually just shaken) but things like Shatter Shells will just glance you to death endlessly, even with a 4++ Transport is very hardy and good for just keeping dudes safe. 4HP is tasty. The Heavy Blaze Cannon... Don't bother. The multi-shot mode is nice and lets it savage up to 7 marines a turn, ignoring FNP even but that solid shot is just sooooo unreliable. I think I managed 2 glancing HP all weekend - if that! YMMV of course with luck but even AV13 is a gamble, especially if it has any kind of save. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4863886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) The Heavy Blaze Cannon... Don't bother. The multi-shot mode is nice and lets it savage up to 7 marines a turn, ignoring FNP even but that solid shot is just sooooo unreliable. I think I managed 2 glancing HP all weekend - if that! YMMV of course with luck but even AV13 is a gamble, especially if it has any kind of save. 7 marines? It's Heavy 4? Were you referencing the Caladius or Telemon's version of the blaze cannon here? The latter shouldn't ignore FNP as it's only S7 Edited August 21, 2017 by LetsYouDown Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4863933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 21, 2017 Author Share Posted August 21, 2017 The Heavy Blaze Cannon... Don't bother. The multi-shot mode is nice and lets it savage up to 7 marines a turn, ignoring FNP even but that solid shot is just sooooo unreliable. I think I managed 2 glancing HP all weekend - if that! YMMV of course with luck but even AV13 is a gamble, especially if it has any kind of save. 7 marines? It's Heavy 4? Sorry I meant in addition to the TL Lastrum on the front too! The Telemon will kill 7 with it's version though ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4863939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 OK, cool. I figured there was something I was missing - and I was :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4863951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 Well here we go...! If you want to get a squad of Hetaron, Tribune and a Spear Dread into prime position to rip out the enemy a new then I present to you, the ORION ASSAULT DROPSHIP It's finally here!Rules:Lord of WarBS5 F13 S12 R11 HP72 Heavy Blaze Cannon2 Twin Linked Lastrum Bolt Cannons2 Spicuulus Heavy Bolt LaunchersExtra ArmourArmoured CeramiteArmoured CockpitAssault VehicleGrav-BackwashDeep Strike1 Access Hatch at the rear24 Model Capacity (so 12 Custodes)Can carry one of the Contemptor dreads as 10 spacesThen the new rules...MACRO ARAE-SHRIKESame as the small ones but also only lets enemy units fire interceptor at the Orion on a 4+ECLIPSE SHIELDFlare shield, but if you suffer a glancing or penetrating hit then you immediately gain shrouded for the rest of the phase from attacks against the front arcSpiculus Heavy Bolt Launcher48" S7 AP4 Heavy 3, Rendinghttps://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Custodes-Gunship-2017 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4898636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 I love it already! If it wasnt for my burning desire to first buy a Thunderhawk to make Aetos Dios with, I'd totally get one of these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4898640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 29, 2017 Author Share Posted September 29, 2017 I will say it's certainly grown on me and the rules are impressive...! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4898670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Fits in a 2500 point army... ;) It's a beast of a model. Will be awesome to see one in RL. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4898684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Orion is the final piece of these Golden Boys. My hobby group exploded. Mwahahahahahaha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4898712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Do you think it's worth the points? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4899272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 605 Points gets you something a pretty hardy and very shooty super-heavy flyer that has 24 Capacity (12 Custodes or 6 Custodes + 1 Contemptor) that gets harder to kill the more you shoot at it unless you have Ignores Cover. Its also the only Assault Vehicle the Custodes has access to as of this moment whilst also being their only "In-Army" LoW selection. To me, yeah, pretty worth it especially when compared to a Thunderhawk though you do lose out on the D Shot and the One-Use Missiles. The only real drawback with it is 7th edition being what it is with regards to flyers of all types. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4899278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanceqi Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 To me it's a game-changer. No more get-melted-on-his-way-to-charge Galatus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4899386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 A game changer for Custodes.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4899585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 I've become pretty convinced by the dbl Stormcannon on the Telemon. Being able to cut a cult horde in half in one shooting phase is clutch power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4931113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 14, 2017 Author Share Posted November 14, 2017 I've become pretty convinced by the dbl Stormcannon on the Telemon. Being able to cut a cult horde in half in one shooting phase is clutch power. I'm leaning with you there, the firepower is shockingly awesome. Only issue is getting tied up on melee - against anything infantry the Telemon will do well with S10 & Shred but against other Dreads (like Leviathans) it's a big, long, drawn out fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4931383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Yeah I'm planning on bubble wrapping him with some allied Auxilla, I take them mostly to bulk up my scoring units, but they serve a secondary roll here. Speaking on allied auxilla, what are peoples favourite allied units?I'm leaning towards: Auxilla Levy Auxilla Fire Teams Leman Russ Annihilators (up to 4 lascannon shots is nothing to scoff at) I wish Auxilla could take Primaris-Lightning fighters, but I guess you can't get everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4936721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptor Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Yeah I'm planning on bubble wrapping him with some allied Auxilla, I take them mostly to bulk up my scoring units, but they serve a secondary roll here. Speaking on allied auxilla, what are peoples favourite allied units? I'm leaning towards: Auxilla Levy Auxilla Fire Teams Leman Russ Annihilators (up to 4 lascannon shots is nothing to scoff at) I wish Auxilla could take Primaris-Lightning fighters, but I guess you can't get everything. Yes, but you can take Arvus Lighters, which are nearly as good. /Sarcasm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4938014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yeah I'm planning on bubble wrapping him with some allied Auxilla, I take them mostly to bulk up my scoring units, but they serve a secondary roll here. Speaking on allied auxilla, what are peoples favourite allied units? I'm leaning towards: Auxilla Levy Auxilla Fire Teams Leman Russ Annihilators (up to 4 lascannon shots is nothing to scoff at) I wish Auxilla could take Primaris-Lightning fighters, but I guess you can't get everything. TotE can't be and can't take allies. Baluc 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4941690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baluc Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Technically you are correct. But it isn't played that way anywhere I've heard of. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4942059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yeah, I mean sure RaW that is correct. But they just count as Agents of the Emperor or w/e on the Allies Matrix to 90% of players. Even throne of skulls was allowing Mechanicum and Talons forces etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4942217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 (edited) Technically you are correct. But it isn't played that way anywhere I've heard of.Sure, we do that as well, but the TotE players do know that it is pure courtesy from our part and should be very cautious when it comes to allies. Playing against TotE in a regular game is tough but manageable. Playing against Custodes who cherry pick stuff from other list is unbeareable. Edited November 28, 2017 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/327217-hh10-legio-custodes-tactica/page/46/#findComment-4944021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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