Kelborn Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Like we did witschte Predators? Remember my initial Concept? What is left of it? Just about half of it. The rest was discussed with the group and adapted to our setting. I'm saying: let us do this week in which everyone can present his legion. Afterwards, let's do a poll and let the majority decide. I'm willing to do another pm poll of necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 And I'm saying why not give presenters an expectation rather than letting them do the work and then just get shot down. Is that too much to ask. To just make short list of things we already know won't work or hat we don't want or need and post it so that if anyone else new comes in they can pre-evaluate their own ideas. That's what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 And I'm saying why not give presenters an expectation rather than letting them do the work and then just get shot down. Is that too much to ask. To just make short list of things we already know won't work or hat we don't want or need and post it so that if anyone else new comes in they can pre-evaluate their own ideas. That's what I'm saying. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 But some alreday wrote down the points we would like to avoid, or didn't he? If we should make that list and start over again, well ok, I won't stand in the way. The opposite would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 a good legion . Tell me what this means to you Mikhal, please. A thought out concept which respects the terrain we already worked on. As stated before: repeating ourselves is not the right way. So original, as it is a lost legion it should be able to stand on its own bit at the same time should be adaptable to the broverse. For example: a legion who was banned because they were so super duper and the rest was envious makes no sense here. A good legion should have depth to it. I like flaws amd weaknesses. Somethimg to make in interesting and it should catch my breath. When I see the concept it should feel right. That is my opinion what a good legion could be. What about you demus? What do you think, whem hearing the term? Maybe this is a question for every one. What makes a good legion in your point of view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 But some alreday wrote down the points we would like to avoid, or didn't he? If we should make that list and start over again, well ok, I won't stand in the way. The opposite would be the case. I've made three limitations, all told, and a number of suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 a good legion . Tell me what this means to you Mikhal, please. A thought out concept which respects the terrain we already worked on. As stated before: repeating ourselves is not the right way. So original, as it is a lost legion it should be able to stand on its own bit at the same time should be adaptable to the broverse. For example: a legion who was banned because they were so super duper and the rest was envious makes no sense here. A good legion should have depth to it. I like flaws amd weaknesses. Somethimg to make in interesting and it should catch my breath. When I see the concept it should feel right. That is my opinion what a good legion could be. What about you demus? What do you think, whem hearing the term? Maybe this is a question for every one. What makes a good legion in your point of view? In this we are in agreement. Well said Mikhal well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 My biggest problem right now is that we do have an applicant who's asked for only two things for his legion, and he's willing to leave everything else to the project to do as we see fit. How do we handle that application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 My biggest problem right now is that we do have an applicant who's asked for only two things for his legion, and he's willing to leave everything else to the project to do as we see fit. How do we handle that application? It's both good and bad. Good that there are no conflicts. Bad in that there isn't much to go on. Which could lead a bunch of conflict and debate. Ohhh bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Uhm. What are those 2 things? Primarch and warfare? So he wamts to have an double axe wielding primarch who is a monster in close combat but we decide on the legion culture for example? So if we decide so je will accept everything? Even if we make him the master.of a teletubbi legion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 That is what we're doing. My point is is there a check list of expectations and outright exclusions? I know you have excluded things as the thread has gone on but do we have any idea what we are looking for? Does the group have an expectation here or are we just going to slog through turning bac the same character over and over? Well no one just dropped with random offerings. We were invited to do so.So you had a primarch job description to go by?I honestly don't understand your attitude.I woke up with a message from simmion asking if I was interested in doing a Legion. No psykers or pariahs. I was asked for a pitch and I did it. If people are not interested cool, if they are cool. Don't be acting like people just randomly dropped with ideas without any permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Uhm. What are those 2 things? Primarch and warfare? So he wamts to have an double axe wielding primarch who is a monster in close combat but we decide on the legion culture for example? So if we decide so je will accept everything? Even if we make him the master.of a teletubbi legion? He wants the Legion to be Loyalist and its warrior culture to be Gothic Knights. Interestingly, he's the only application that doesn't even give any preferences for his Primarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Uhm. What are those 2 things? Primarch and warfare? So he wamts to have an double axe wielding primarch who is a monster in close combat but we decide on the legion culture for example? So if we decide so je will accept everything? Even if we make him the master.of a teletubbi legion? No more psyckers or pariahs an no more blind primarchs. That is what we're doing. My point is is there a check list of expectations and outright exclusions? I know you have excluded things as the thread has gone on but do we have any idea what we are looking for? Does the group have an expectation here or are we just going to slog through turning bac the same character over and over? Well no one just dropped with random offerings. We were invited to do so.So you had a primarch job description to go by?I honestly don't understand your attitude.I woke up with a message from simmion asking if I was interested in doing a Legion. No psykers or pariahs. I was asked for a pitch and I did it. If people are not interested cool, if they are cool. Don't be acting like people just randomly dropped with ideas without any permission. Calm yourself no one is picking on you. My comments are not about you they are abou the project. Edited October 31, 2016 by Demus Ragnok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Sete, Demus' critique is more on our application system than on you. He's rightfully pointing out that I was a bit vague on the requirements, and the process would benefit more if we had more clear requirements. Edited October 31, 2016 by simison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Oh cmon I didn't even start on the caps lock. ;) I didn't take the comment as a personal offence, but it felt unfair for the people that pitched overall, as if we just dropped and forced ideas. Maybe something was lost on translation. It's my Latin hot blooded attitude my apologies if I was rude ;) I think this is a discussion the group should have privately and not on an open thread. Edited October 31, 2016 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I like Gothic Knights. The Apostles.of War were in that direction but it changed with Gwal...all those untapped glories. But Demus is right, that is really not much to work with, although we have close to unlimted power then Bit it feels somehow like a 2nd Lightning Bearers Situation. The Creator not really in the project involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Oh cmon I didn't even start on the caps lock. http://image.bolterandchainsword.com//public/style_emoticons/default/msn-wink.gif I think this is a discussion the group should have privately and not on an open thread. The PM system can only handle 4 people at a time. Anyway, it is what it is. The last time we did this, the process was over in a day, so fast that poor San didn't even know it was happening until later. So, I tried to be slower and more thorough, and I simply wasn't expecting the deluge we did get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 So with all that behind us. How about female primarchs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 So with all that behind us. How about female primarchs? Well, just fire a Fatboy in the middle of the forums, why don't ya? *dives into a nearby trench* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 !!!! We have Raktra with a skirt....that is enough female power!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Meros Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I would like to notify you all that I wish to withdraw my application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 I accept your withdrawal and will modify the first post accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well. Sanguinius and curze had both visions. Maybe this will function here as well? But on the other hand alexandros ( guys you should rethink your naming) and icarion both habe visions and can read the future too. That is their thing. Do we really need another precog? I like the concept of the twin primarchs more. Bit i suggest they shouldn't rival for power. They should know their abilites and strwngth and always work togheter. Even on the battlefield. For example alone they are a well....not so strong but togheter they could get a boost ao that they are whole and strong. Complimenting each other. Alone preator lv char. Togheter withing 2" primarch top tier or the like They do work together on the battlefield. Its just that off the battlefield they each try to gain the upper hand in terms of supporters so that they can pull the legion more in the way they want to. Least that was the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Simison? When you were talking about gothic Knights, of whom did you speak??? ADB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikhalLeNoir Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Well. Sanguinius and curze had both visions. Maybe this will function here as well? But on the other hand alexandros ( guys you should rethink your naming) and icarion both habe visions and can read the future too. That is their thing. Do we really need another precog? I like the concept of the twin primarchs more. Bit i suggest they shouldn't rival for power. They should know their abilites and strwngth and always work togheter. Even on the battlefield. For example alone they are a well....not so strong but togheter they could get a boost ao that they are whole and strong. Complimenting each other. Alone preator lv char. Togheter withing 2" primarch top tier or the like They do work together on the battlefield. Its just that off the battlefield they each try to gain the upper hand in terms of supporters so that they can pull the legion more in the way they want to. Least that was the idea. But that seems like alpha legion shenanigams. Omegon doing somthing behind alpharous back. Why not w brothers who are absolutely infatuated with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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