WarriorFish Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 That's a good deal, though I'm also not really needing Cawl... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4607708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I expect eBay to be cawling with the Cawl guy :D ... I leave on my penance crusade right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4607734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I expect eBay to be cawling with the Cawl guy :D ... I leave on my penance crusade right now. But I have this set of Arco-flails right here . . . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4607840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackarmor_redtruth Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Perhaps we can trade that centipede with an axe and some servos with some friends. Past that, that is one box that is getting got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 My room mate has already told me I am splitting the set with her. What she really said is that when I buy her Crawl for her birthday I can keep Celestine and the Inquisitor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 What a cool room mate! I'll have my FLGS set a box aside for me. If nothing else I can use Cawl as a driver for a Rhino Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Designer notes from a page of the battle report (up on the facebook page) suggests that Celestine still has an AP3 weapon (it notes that Abaddon was unlucky to roll 1 for his armour save) - wonder if she is still using her old ruleset. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 Designer notes from a page of the battle report (up on the facebook page) suggests that Celestine still has an AP3 weapon (it notes that Abaddon was unlucky to roll 1 for his armour save) - wonder if she is still using her old ruleset. Wouldn't surprise me to see her remain the same except gain more of a buff ability for the army she is with. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't get that either and simply picked up her Gemini. Isn't it mentioned in the WD that she was part of a formation including the Gemini, Inquisitor Greyfax and the Heretic Cawl? Whatever the formation bonus is, it can't all come from her. Maybe keeping her old ruleset is all she will get. Any word on the abilities of the Gemini at all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I hope we'll be able to run Celestine and the Gemini without the tech-dude and the filthy witch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4608581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
taikishi Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 My room mate has already told me I am splitting the set with her. What she really said is that when I buy her Crawl for her birthday I can keep Celestine and the Inquisitor. Is your roommate like my friends? That is to say, when there's a game we decide we want to play we justify purchasing it by giving it as a gift to one of our friends as a birthday present... even if their birthday was 3-4 months ago and we don't really know when their birthday is? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drider Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ...So, I had to nip up to GW today to get some paints and ended up deflecting the usual 'hard sell' with a bit of chat. The staff their seemed to think that Celestine would be getting new rules, rather than a copy paste job, as she is 'in ascension'. It probably doesn't mean anything but I figured I'd post it anyway. I did raise what has become my usual counter point that I've been in the salt mine for a while now and it'll probably be copy and paste rules plus you can add a retinue for 40 ppm. 15 for the seraphim + 10 for the superior upgrade to get +1Ld on the stat line + 15 for the power sword. They didn't seem at all that impressed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 ...So, I had to nip up to GW today to get some paints and ended up deflecting the usual 'hard sell' with a bit of chat. The staff their seemed to think that Celestine would be getting new rules, rather than a copy paste job, as she is 'in ascension'. It probably doesn't mean anything but I figured I'd post it anyway. I did raise what has become my usual counter point that I've been in the salt mine for a while now and it'll probably be copy and paste rules plus you can add a retinue for 40 ppm. 15 for the seraphim + 10 for the superior upgrade to get +1Ld on the stat line + 15 for the power sword. They didn't seem at all that impressed. This is about what I'm expecting, though maybe the Gemini get some new special rule, but maybe not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 My room mate has already told me I am splitting the set with her. What she really said is that when I buy her Crawl for her birthday I can keep Celestine and the Inquisitor. Is your roommate like my friends? That is to say, when there's a game we decide we want to play we justify purchasing it by giving it as a gift to one of our friends as a birthday present... even if their birthday was 3-4 months ago and we don't really know when their birthday is? Very much this! It is a running joke with books. "I bought you a copy of xxxx for your Nook" when all our readers use the same account. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackScorpion22 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Just pasting some thoughts I made in the News and Rumors section: Has anyone here read the January White Dwarf batrep? I am interested if any stats or special rules of Saint Celestine can be gleaned from reading the battle report. For example, if she gets killed in the report do they mention her getting back up and if so then how, which would let us figure out if her ressurection rules remained unchanged. Also, does it say how she and the gemini interact? Does the text specify if she deploys with the gemini twins or with the seraphim or altogether? I am wondering if Celestine and the gemini make up their own unit (like an IG company command squad or a techmarine and his servitors) instead of Celestine being an independent character. this would ruin a lot of the shenanigans I employ by attaching her to deathstars and using her to hit-and-run them out of combat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackScorpion22 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Designer notes from a page of the battle report (up on the facebook page) suggests that Celestine still has an AP3 weapon (it notes that Abaddon was unlucky to roll 1 for his armour save) - wonder if she is still using her old ruleset. This logic baffles me, maybe if I explain my thinking someone can point out my flaw. If Abaddon hasa 3+ armor save then he wouldn't have gotten an armor save if Celestine was ap3, and if Abaddon has 2+ armor then his roll of 1 would be unlucky REGARDLESS what celestine's ap is other than ap2 (i.e. ap3, ap4, ap5, etc.). Wouldn't the designer note simply prove celestine does NOT have ap2? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 You'd definitely think the "Emperor's Angel" would have an AP2 sword. Especially after even Sisters of Silence come with one, and rare as they might have been (or have been), they're no living Saints with a relic sword :P As for the Geminae, what worries me about them is possibly it not being possible to put Celestine into a bigger squad if she can't be taken without them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4609746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 She reaps the mortal heretics just fine with AP3. She's always been a thresher not a surgical blade when it comes to utility. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waking Dreamer Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Designer notes from a page of the battle report (up on the facebook page) suggests that Celestine still has an AP3 weapon (it notes that Abaddon was unlucky to roll 1 for his armour save) - wonder if she is still using her old ruleset. This logic baffles me, maybe if I explain my thinking someone can point out my flaw. If Abaddon hasa 3+ armor save then he wouldn't have gotten an armor save if Celestine was ap3, and if Abaddon has 2+ armor then his roll of 1 would be unlucky REGARDLESS what celestine's ap is other than ap2 (i.e. ap3, ap4, ap5, etc.). Wouldn't the designer note simply prove celestine does NOT have ap2? It implies she does not have an ap2 sword like people hoped, and her last rules had her with an ap3 one, so that's most likely it. What sense is there to be giving her a sword with ap4 or worse? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Designer notes from a page of the battle report (up on the facebook page) suggests that Celestine still has an AP3 weapon (it notes that Abaddon was unlucky to roll 1 for his armour save) - wonder if she is still using her old ruleset. This logic baffles me, maybe if I explain my thinking someone can point out my flaw. If Abaddon hasa 3+ armor save then he wouldn't have gotten an armor save if Celestine was ap3, and if Abaddon has 2+ armor then his roll of 1 would be unlucky REGARDLESS what celestine's ap is other than ap2 (i.e. ap3, ap4, ap5, etc.). Wouldn't the designer note simply prove celestine does NOT have ap2? I think the idea is that Abbadon wearing terminator armor and having gotten to take an armor save at all against Celestine, rather than his invuln, might imply Celestine has basically the same rules and stats she had in the SoB digi-dex. The Gemini are new, but it will all depend on what the rules are. If the Gemini become a must take to bring Celestine, I am having a hard time imagining any rule they might give the trio making her worth taking in an SoB army. Hopefully they will keep the digi-dex up for sale and that will still be a way of fielding her. All I wanted was SoB maelstrom cards, we probably won't even get those at this rate. All the chatter from the WD seems to be aiming at Inquisition cards instead. I'm not usually one for chatter, I've been at this too long. But the rumors were at least right. We got a new canoness, they called that. The Sisters got some new plastic models, they didn't say how many so they called that too. Some assumed a huge SoB plastic release meant a new dex as well. Not what they expected, but C:IA does have Sisters units in print. GW reset the clock alright. I wont be buying the new Celestine model. Remember, she who bails, fails. Light your way in the Darkness with the pyres of burning Heretics.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'll likely pick up Celestine and the new campaign book but perhaps not all at once or right away. Lately I have been itching for a different project. Something different and new compared to what I used to do and playing. And by that I've been feeling an itch to play Black Templars and murder heretics not by shooting them with a holy bolter but by punching them so hard their skulls explode out their rectums. So the book will likely grab my interest either way and my Sisters will finally get some friends to play with now and then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsmith Aznable Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I don't know how I could not buy her. GW finally releases something new for Sisters and it's a centre-piece unit, and the Gemini are maybe something never seen before rules-wise. Depending on a lot of factors I may actually just use the old metal Celestine instead, but I definitely want the new one in my collection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqui Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Celestine will be mine. I dont care what her rules are, or how i have to field her. I will find a way to make it work. It is the Sisters way after all... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 It's so very easy to imagine the Sisters getting a centre peice model that has T3, no Eternal Warrior and stuck in a unit with two other T3 models just to make picking them off that extra bit easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm a bit confused as to why they lumped all those models in together. I don't mind the Inquisitor as I want her too but I have no need for Cawl and I suspect when this box is released there will be a glut of spare Cawl's people will be fruitlessly trying to sell off :P Still, more importantly I need to nail down my updated colour scheme for my Sisters so I can work on the new Celestine as soon as I get her. Does anyone have any experience with scroll-floating Sigmarine models to share? In regard to strengthening the model somehow? I'm concerned the scroll work holding her up will break easily. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hod Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I'm a bit confused as to why they lumped all those models in together. I don't mind the Inquisitor as I want her too but I have no need for Cawl and I suspect when this box is released there will be a glut of spare Cawl's people will be fruitlessly trying to sell off Still, more importantly I need to nail down my updated colour scheme for my Sisters so I can work on the new Celestine as soon as I get her. Does anyone have any experience with scroll-floating Sigmarine models to share? In regard to strengthening the model somehow? I'm concerned the scroll work holding her up will break easily. You can always add more scroll work under her to give more strength (either with paper or plasticard). I have added scroll work to my Seraphim to get rid of the tabs connected to their feet. I ran a metal wire from the base into the Seraphim and then used the paper scroll work to cover up the metal wire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328820-the-return-of-celestine/page/7/#findComment-4610361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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