Talonair Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Legio Ignatum has a Warmonger Titan, apparently stationed on Terra. A Warmonger Titan. Guess what's gonna blow the bloody doors off on Olympus Mons. Isn't a Warmonger just a long-range support version of an Emperor? I would have thought a full size Ordinatus unit would be more suited Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4634878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Yeah, but dude, they haven't even come up in Heresy novels Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4634885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Hm, perhaps. In any case I think it should be a joint effort to bring down the gates of Olympus Mons. Space Marine and Mechanicum strike teams going in to destroy external shield generators etc, leaving the gates vulnerable to bombardment, and Loyal forces battling to protect whatever device we use to break the gates open Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4634888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted January 26, 2017 Author Share Posted January 26, 2017 Agreed. I'm working partly on the basis that Titans played a major role in breaking the Imperial Palace in canon, so they're certainly viable, and could certainly be deployed alongside Ordinati and all sorts of other forces. Demus, I assume Niklaas will bring Tonarum along? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4634893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Agreed. I'm working partly on the basis that Titans played a major role in breaking the Imperial Palace in canon, so they're certainly viable, and could certainly be deployed alongside Ordinati and all sorts of other forces. Demus, I assume Niklaas will bring Tonarum along? Oh yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4635074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 I'm going to need to look into current Martian geography. For now, does anyone know where the key battlefields from canon are? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4651752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Magma city is where it all kicked off after the Death of Innocence. The Noachis region got levelled by a titan legion. High Magos Ahotep's forge-city (Cassini crater) was destroyed by nukes. In Lunae Palus, the Deathbolts fortress got attacked, and they were driven to and besieged in the Mare Boreum. In the Athabasca Valles two titan legions fought to a stalemate. The forges of Maximal were attacked by Kelbor-Hal's Skitarii and combat servitors, and later besieged by Ordinatus units. In the Mare Tyrrhenum almost a million Skitarii clashed and fought to the death.The Ismenius Lacus forge-city got virus bombed by the Dark Mechanicum. The Ring of Iron was the scene of /massive/ ship battles, in canonverse the Solar Defense Fleet was forced to withdraw. Magma City became the focal point of the resistance, and got bitterly sieged, the traitors spending entire titan legions to try and take it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4651793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Ok, so the plains beyond Magma City are still important, as Alexandros wrecks the Mortis detachment sent to take it. Now, I'm thinking timeline-wise that intervention comes right after the Dragon of Autumn arrives and Alex learns of Daer'dd's fate. Then there are a couple of weeks for Alex to get a loyalist resistance underway across the Imperium. Then he makes planetfall, shortly followed by Niklaas. Cue a number of engagements before the Battle of the Mariner Plain sees Kelbor-Hal's army confined to Olympus Mons, and the Abyssii forces help to break it open shortly afterwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4657525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 As it stands currently, Mortera's Taghmata is in orbit for the Death of Innocence, meaning the Abyssii will be present at Mars from the very start of the Schism Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4658355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 In full force? I may have to do some rejigging of the first Mars scene. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4658525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 More or less full force. They're there for refit and repair after some campaigning, so not all their ships are in fighting shape, and that will be further exacerbated by the Death of Innocence. However, they will be able to bring to bear a full war maniple of the Legio Carnifex, a detachment from their Knight house, a Myrmidon cult under Archmagos Silon Rex, a Cybernetica cohort under Archmagos Crastus Mhal, an Ordo Reductor detachment under Archmagos Charon Discut. The Taghmata Mortera will also be able to bring to bear an Ordinatus unit. Would it help if I gave you a more complete list of Taghmata Mortera forces present at Mars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4658620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 It certainly would. Plus, what do you want to showcase about Abyssii on Mars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4658652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 So, here's the breakdown of Taghmata Mortera forces at Mars at the outbreak of the Schism: Basilikon Astra. All ships of cruiser size and above mount Douvior systems in place of torpedo tupes: Flagship: Glory of Summer: Ark Mechanicum, Mortera's flagship. Mounts Fusion lances and the 'Fractal cannon'.Ships of the Line: Lance Held High: Mechanicum Battleship. Mounts Fusion lances and Rulebreaker cannon in place of Nova cannon. Undergoing repairs Point of No Return: Mechanicum Battleship. Sister ship to Lance Held High. Mounts Fusion lances and Fusion array broadside batteries. Undergoing repairs, adjacent berth to Lance Held High. Excessive Gravitas: Mechanicum Battleship. Mounts lances and launch bays. Last Unto Dawn: Mechanicum Battleship. Mounts lances and nova cannon. Undergoing repairs Last Unto Twilight: Mechanicum Battle Cruiser. Mounts two flank fusion lances and nova cannon. Undergoing refit. Unlikely Circumstance: Mechanicum Battle Cruiser. Mounts enhanced Douvior system and lances. Nature to Eternity: Mechanicum Battle Cruiser. Mounts launch bays and lances. Undergoing repairs. Cruisers: Take All Vantage Aspect of Zeal: Undergoing almost complete rebuild With Noble Cause Cycle of Steel Intemperant Solitude Numerous Destroyers and other escorts Collegia Titanicus. War Maniple of the Legio Carnifex, under Grandmaster Gallia, the Felhand Gloria Ira: Imperator Titan, Princeps Gallia Ironwroth: Mars-Alpha pattern Warlord Titan, Nemesis-class [Currently Unnamed]: Mars-Beta pattern Warlord Titan, Nightgaunt-class [Four Currently Unnamed Reavers] [Eight Currently Unnamed Warhounds] Knight House. Detachment of the Spectris Lancea Knight House, under [unnamed Princeps] [unnamed Knight]: Unique Cerastus Knight-Lancer Cerastus Knight-Lancer: Two Cerastus Knight-Atropos: Two Cerastus Knight-Acheron: Three Cerastus Knight-Castigator: Four Questoris Knight Paladin: Eight Questoris Knight Errant: Five Questoris Knight Magaera: Two Questoris Knight Styrix: Three Legio Cybernetica. Under Archmagos Dominus Crastus Mhal Ground Forces: Castellax Automata: 101 Automata. 20 Maniples, 1 Paragon of Metal Domitar Automata: 30 Automata. 6 Maniples Vorax Automata: 60 Automata. 10 Maniples Arlatax Automata: 30 Automata. 6 Maniples Thanatar Automata: 18 Automata. 6 Maniples Thanatar-Cynis Automata: 6 Automata Thanatar-Calix Automata: 4 Automata Mammothar Automata: 20 Automata Vultarax Automata: 24 Automata. 8 Maniples Pledged Thallax: 1,500 Thallax. Thallax Cohorts pledged to Legio Cybernetica from other Mechanicum forces Myrmidon Custos: 5 Myrmidon Custos. Pledged to Archmagos Crastus Mhal Magos Dominus: 9 Magos Dominus Assorted Tech-Priests, Tech-Thralls and Servitors Naval Forces: Caetarax Automata: 15. Caetarax Automata are Frigate-sized hunter-killer automata, intended to attack and latch onto enemy ships, disgorging Thallax and Battle-Automata to board the targeted ship, as well as carrying their own armaments Ordo Reductor. Under Archmagos Reductor Charon Discut Infantry: Thallax: 18,000 Thallax Ursarax: 6,000 Ursarax Accipitrax: 3,000 Accipitrax Myrmidons: 400 Myrmidon Secutors, 100 Myrmidon Destructors, 5 Myrmidon Custos pledged to Archmagos Reductor Charon Discut Magos Reductor: 12 Magos Reductor Skitarii: 500,000 Skitarii Various Tech-Priests, Tech-Thralls and Servitors Armoured Vehicles: Krios Battle Tanks: 50 Krios Battle Tanks. 25 Krios Venators Triaros Transports: 60 Triaros Transports Karacnos Assault Tank: 20 Karacnos Tanks Ordo Reductor Artillery Tanks: 150 of various armament Macrocarid Explorators: 30 Explorators of various armament Minotaur Artillery Tanks: 10 Minotaurs Baneblade-Hull Tanks: 3 Falcions, 8 Fellblades, 2 Glaives Aircraft: Primaris-Lightnings: 250 of various armament Avengers: 350 of various armament Warmonger Gunships: 50 Warmongers of various pattern. The Warmonger Gunship is an STC design with multiple variants, the patterns to which are controlled by the Abyssii. Following an apparently similar design philosophy to the various patterns of Stormbird, the Warmonger is capable of transporting one hundred Astartes, and can carry vehicles and machine-creatures, as well as a formidable amount of firepower. Various Drop Ships and Landers Myrmidon Cult. Under Archmagos Myrmidax Silon Rex Infantry: Myrmidons: 2,000 Myrmidon Secutors, 800 Myrmidon Destructors, 100 Myrmidon Custos (includes Archmagos Silon Rex's personal guard) Various Tech-Priests, Tech-Thralls and Servitors Centurio Ordiantus. Under Magos Havelock Ordinatus Nox: One, unique. A full-sized Ordinatus machine, armed with a weapon that represents a combination of the Abyssii's 'Rulebreaker' weaponry and their Fusion lance arrays, the aptly named ‘Ruin Cannon’ of the Ordinatus Nox is a terrifyingly effective weapon. Capable of wiping out an entire hive city in a series of reality-shattering detonations, and is quite able to engage enemy ships in orbit. Ordinatus-Minoris Ulator: Two Various Tech-Priests and Servitors And of course, Mortera herself and her personal bodyguard of the Myrmidon Custos Prime Cohort Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demus Ragnok Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 That is beautiful amount of detail Tal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 It certainly would. Plus, what do you want to showcase about Abyssii on Mars? On Mars I would like to showcase just how warlike the Abyssii are compared to their fellow tech-priests. Before they were discovered by the Great Crusade, the Abyssii were under almost constant attack by raiders and the like, which is part of why their first contact with the Imperium via a Drowned scout fleet turned violent. I want to showcase the precise savagery that defines their approach to war. In terms of individual characters, I want to showcase the extent of Archmagos Mhal's control over automata, Archmagos Discut's ruthless, methodical and merciless siegecraft, Archmagos Rex's unrelenting assaults, and of course, Archmagos Mortera Nagathiir's brilliant strategic mind and her sheer lethality in personal combat. However I also want to showcase their weaknesses. Their unwillingness to accept a surrender from traitors. Their mercilessness, and their questionable adherence to the edicts set down by the Omnissiah. The Mechanicum Abyssii are fiercely independent, and are unlikely to accept commands from those outside their command structure. The extent of Archmagos Mhal's control over automata will be seen as miraculous by some (seeing him as Machine-Touched), and blasphemous by others (a heretical knowledge of some kind). Archmagos Discut's ruthless nature giving over to something approaching bloodthirst, especially towards traitorous elements of the Ordo Reductor. Archmagos Rex will make a very public show of executing each and every traitor within the Taghmata Mortera in something of a mirror of Raktra executing his legion's Chaplains, and will demonstrate a battlelust in excess of what is required of him. And Mortera will display intense ambition, making plays to further her own ends even in the midst of civil war on Mars, and is not above risking or sacrificing friendly forces outside her own Taghmata to do so. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 That is beautiful amount of detail Tal. Thank you! Been holding a lot of this on a backburner for some time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Works for me. Perhaps they take care of another Insurrectionist army while Alex leads the advance on Olympus Mons. I see there's a BL book coming up about Kane struggling to maintain what he considers his rightful importance, with Mars in Traitor hands. Should be handy to us when we consider him in control of the Red Planet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I thought the Abyssii were going to be heading the assault on Olympus Mons? EDIT: Also, noticed I missed something out on the info-dump Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 Yeah. The Mariner Plain battle leads up to that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Ah ok. Can you send me a timetable if you have one of the war on mars? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 I don't, beyond the one at the start of the thread. Now needs an update. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Hmm. Well, any reinforcements will need to battle through the Ring of Iron/traitor Mechanicum ships/void automata/defense platforms, the presence of the Taghmata Mortera should at least help with that. In canon the traitors won the Schism of mars because the Solar defense fleet was driven off, so if the Taghmata's ships are able to disable enough of Mars' defenses... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 That is certainly something we need to address. A contested Ring of Iron also justifies Arkan Land enduring a chase on the ground in the company of the Halcyon Wardens. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Oh man, Arkan Land in a high speed chase? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 And he's stuck with the most human Space Marines. Human, in this context, always meaning the insipid fascination that the overwhelming majority of men and women had for sentimental trivia. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330234-event-the-schism-of-mars/page/2/#findComment-4659914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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