Acebaur Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 You know that ATSKNF will be amazing as it always has been. It's part of why marines pay so many points per model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Rock Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Agreed. I think marines breaking will be possible, but there will be plenty of rules that make it unlikely (ATSKNF, warlord traits, command points, etc). I know I may be coming across like a pollyanna, but even after picking apart all the info leaks with my FLGS, we all feel really positive about 8th. As a whole, it seems quicker, more balanced, and more tactical. Even if there are changes to rules I dislike in isolation, I'll be content as long as those three things are achieved in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Arthur Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 And something to keep in mind with morale tests is 8th looks like it'll be a great edition for transports. Assuming we can assault out of all transports our crusader squads will rarely be victims to heavy fire. Before you know it Tau gunlines will cry out in terror as our chainswords finally reach their feeble lines, and the normally swift Eldar are outmaneuvered by our metal boxes and then crushed under Templar feet and treads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I don't know about that last point. FIrst because if transports are so good everyone will have them, and second because I doubt our metal boxes can outmanoeuvre eldar vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, they will probably still be able to fly over terrain, while ours still need to roll D6 before going over them... but at least maybe they won't be immobilized unlike this edition... I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Templar Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://natfka.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/new-insights-and-rules-for-8th-edition.html?m=1 So plenty of leaked rumours in this link. Some speculation on challenges, characters and neophytes with a 3+ save!? All rumours mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal_Roujakis Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://natfka.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/new-insights-and-rules-for-8th-edition.html?m=1 So plenty of leaked rumours in this link. Some speculation on challenges, characters and neophytes with a 3+ save!? All rumours mind you. Yeah I'm putting salt on that... The last thing you want in a game of 40k with Lascannons and Flamers that does D6 hits/wounds is have characters walking around alone... that restricts characters from attacking squads unless what they're trying to Assault is already locked in combat... the Overwatch alone, if it hits, would kill them on the spot... As for Vehicles not having Fire Points, but is restricted to who is riding them, it is far too restrictive... for example... if I have a Rhino and the fire point out of the rhino restricts it to Bolters only, and in that Rhino I have a 5-man Heavy Bolter Devastator Squad, then that restricts the Devastator Squad from firing at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 WHat BT neos with a 3+? MUAHAHHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT_FRANCIS Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Where is it said that ALL transports are assault vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 GW shot me a feply back this morning regarding wargear: any options that are leal now will still be legal in 8th. So MSU BT and 5 Initiates and 5 Neophytes can both still rock a special and a heavy weapon. I just hope there is a change to giving Marines a CCW standard to fit with the fluff of going into combat woth bolter, bolt pistol, and either a combat knife or chainsword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchyTasty Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 WHat BT neos with a 3+? MUAHAHHAHAHA Mixed armor already stated that "Units with mixed saves use whatever save there is more of" unless something changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Naftka already confirmed most of it it's fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I have a feeling that the whole "single statline for all models in the unit" thing won't carry over. Too many units with widly different stats and options (Crusader Squads, Mechanicus Big Beep Boops and Coghead unit, Big Bug and little Bugstartes bodyguards, ect) requiring units to likely retain the multiple statlines we know from the current game just with the 8th ed flavor on how they look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3m01iti0n Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 You guys see at 40K FB that GW put Marbo rules in for SW and dedicated it to that Anthony guy that keeps spamming their posts with Marbo memos? Why are we not doing this??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 You guys see at 40K FB that GW put Marbo rules in for SW and dedicated it to that Anthony guy that keeps spamming their posts with Marbo memos? Why are we not doing this??? The Brethren inspired him after #maketemplarsgreatagain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 You guys see at 40K FB that GW put Marbo rules in for SW and dedicated it to that Anthony guy that keeps spamming their posts with Marbo memos? Why are we not doing this??? Time to copy and paste the entire "YMBABTI" list into a single post and post it in every single one of their posts ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Spam the link to YKYABTW thread. That'll open their eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Spam the link to YKYABTW thread. That'll open their eyes. You can't expect non-Templars to crusade into the depth of such greatness with that alone. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 If you can't persuade them; hurricane THEM WITH ZEAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 They pandered to a parrot who spammed their page with memes? They're becoming as bad as DHX Media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I rather like that they gave something to the community on demand. We could see more OOP characters return on request this way in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 So I shot GW a message on FB about some potential changes to wargear loadouts and got a reply. So first, my message: So with this new editon and the look of pistols no longer serving to be close combat weapons does this mean we'll be seeing the issuance of knives and chainswords to our loyalist models standard?I only ask because everyone seems to always have a knife, chainsword or bayonet in the lore (and the Infantryman's Uplifting Primer states it to be a part of a Guardsman's required kit) but on the table top that's never seen outside of specific army builds.If you can't answer now a little article about it as a teaser this month would be good too! I'm sure a lot of us just want a better idea how war is going to be waged going into the new edition and would appreciate the insight. And their reply: Hey [REDACTED] - that's a great question! It does indeed sound like an article. Watch this space! So it looks like there IS a change (potentially in the "everyone gets something to stab people with" direction (I hope), but the details will become an article in the future instead of a FB message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I rather like that they gave something to the community on demand. We could see more OOP characters return on request this way in the future. It's nice, yes, but don't dedicate the answer to a spammer. That just broadcasts "who spams most will get what they want," and I wouldn't call that a good thing if you put a loaded bolt pistol on my temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://natfka.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/new-insights-and-rules-for-8th-edition.html?m=1 So plenty of leaked rumours in this link. Some speculation on challenges, characters and neophytes with a 3+ save!? All rumours mind you. Yeah I'm putting salt on that... The last thing you want in a game of 40k with Lascannons and Flamers that does D6 hits/wounds is have characters walking around alone... that restricts characters from attacking squads unless what they're trying to Assault is already locked in combat... the Overwatch alone, if it hits, would kill them on the spot... As for Vehicles not having Fire Points, but is restricted to who is riding them, it is far too restrictive... for example... if I have a Rhino and the fire point out of the rhino restricts it to Bolters only, and in that Rhino I have a 5-man Heavy Bolter Devastator Squad, then that restricts the Devastator Squad from firing at all... One thing with the characters is we will probably see them get more wounds, and rumor points out they wouldn't be a valid target outside of close range or are on point. Also with melee it looks like only those models close to him will even get to swing in him given what we know so far. Of course a lone character shouldn't be charging into combat alone unless they're really good at doing that. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I rather like that they gave something to the community on demand. We could see more OOP characters return on request this way in the future. It's nice, yes, but don't dedicate the answer to a spammer. That just broadcasts "who spams most will get what they want," and I wouldn't call that a good thing if you put a loaded bolt pistol on my temple. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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