HeritorA Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Cool . Tridents looking good on shoulder pads :) deathspectersgt7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4679301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigismund229 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 So I'm basically bleeding out of my eyes from watching a late-night showing of the director's cut of Das Boot, but I'm tremendously excited to hear of new ADB coming down the pipe. I guess I'm wondering, why the Emperor's Spears? Almost nothing about them seems to exist, from what I can tell. Why not create a whole new Chapter rather than drawing from one of the lesser-known existing Chapters? Not a criticism, just curious. That's a good question. The dream, I guess, is your own Chapter. But that's also the... easy route, I guess? I don't know how or why, but at some point the dream sort of becomes taking a Chapter that's just a scheme and a name from the history of the setting, and making that your own instead. I'm not sure why. It's sort of like... you're not here to invent your own stuff and make it prominent, you're here to illustrate the setting as best as you can, in your own voice. Nothing quite that set in stone, but that kind of angle. You're still in the sandbox. "My" Chapter is already in the lore: I chucked in a few references to the Angels Numinous in the background, and that's that. I put my wife's Chapter in, too: the Shadow Wolves get a few mentions in the background with no real detail, but just so they 'exist', so to speak. It's like Dan with Brothers of the Snake. He invented the Silver Guard, but he took the Iron Snakes from Ye Olde Lore, with nothing much mentioned about them, and made them his own. EDIT: Phone typos. Always been curious where the Shadow Wolves came from. Now I know Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4688578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 So I'm basically bleeding out of my eyes from watching a late-night showing of the director's cut of Das Boot, but I'm tremendously excited to hear of new ADB coming down the pipe. I guess I'm wondering, why the Emperor's Spears? Almost nothing about them seems to exist, from what I can tell. Why not create a whole new Chapter rather than drawing from one of the lesser-known existing Chapters? Not a criticism, just curious. That's a good question. The dream, I guess, is your own Chapter. But that's also the... easy route, I guess? I don't know how or why, but at some point the dream sort of becomes taking a Chapter that's just a scheme and a name from the history of the setting, and making that your own instead. I'm not sure why. It's sort of like... you're not here to invent your own stuff and make it prominent, you're here to illustrate the setting as best as you can, in your own voice. Nothing quite that set in stone, but that kind of angle. You're still in the sandbox. "My" Chapter is already in the lore: I chucked in a few references to the Angels Numinous in the background, and that's that. I put my wife's Chapter in, too: the Shadow Wolves get a few mentions in the background with no real detail, but just so they 'exist', so to speak. It's like Dan with Brothers of the Snake. He invented the Silver Guard, but he took the Iron Snakes from Ye Olde Lore, with nothing much mentioned about them, and made them his own. EDIT: Phone typos. Always been curious where the Shadow Wolves came from. Now I know So from where do the Shadow Wolves came from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4689733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 You can do better than that, Heri. You know what he meant. Just let it be. HeritorA and DarkChaplain 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4689762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 You can do better than that, Heri. You know what he meant. Just let it be. Ok ok - hope we all will have a splendid week And nice threads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4689783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 He gave away the name of an upcoming protaganist on his FB- Justinian. Emperor Justinian's life might shed some light on the Spears https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I Maybe he's restoring a chapter to a lost former glory? Maybe he fights Tzeenchian rebels called the Tzani? Maybe I'm reading too much into things? HeritorA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4690466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 He gave away the name of an upcoming protaganist on his FB- Justinian. Emperor Justinian's life might shed some light on the Spears https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_I Maybe he's restoring a chapter to a lost former glory? Maybe he fights Tzeenchian rebels called the Tzani? Maybe I'm reading too much into things? You are reading too much into things ;) It's all rumours and wishful thinking by that point :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4690902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Of course, it is possible that he was inspired by Justinian II, the "Rhinotmetos", in which case... oh boy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_II Also, for more scholarly account: http://www.roman-emperors.org/Just2.htm Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4691370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Of course, it is possible that he was inspired by Justinian II, the "Rhinotmetos", in which case... oh boy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justinian_II Also, for more scholarly account: http://www.roman-emperors.org/Just2.htm Good catch! So if A D-B like Justinian he will make him a Chapter Master and depose him by the hands of a sergeant ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4692927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midgard Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I guess we will find out by whether or not Justinian keeps his nose... ;) HeritorA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4696697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Unless it changes (and of course it might) the main Space Marine character is called Vadhán. Legio Draconis, R_F_D and lordhellblade 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4696714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apothecary Vaddon Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Is that 'vad haan' or 'vaydin' or 'vudaaan'? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4696747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Is that an Urdu or Hindi name? Petitioner's City 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4696759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Is that 'vad haan' or 'vaydin' or 'vudaaan'? Vad haan sounds better :) Unless it changes (and of course it might) the main Space Marine character is called Vadhán. Such a changeable human nature :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4697315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Will the Ultima Founding and its implications feature in the story or will it be set prior to these events? Just curious. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4760803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Will the Ultima Founding and its implications feature in the story or will it be set prior to these events? Just curious. Better prior - cause Ultima Founding sucks D3L 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 In your humble opinion, of course. :P Though I can see why some will dislike the Ultima Founding, I'm curious of how it will turn out in the end and if I may create my latest chapter idea the way I wanted (namely a Vlka successor). And yes, Heri. I know that it will be "as horrible as the abomination called Gathering Storm" and so on. Surprise me with something new in your humble opinion, of course. :P DarkChaplain and HeritorA 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 In your humble opinion, of course. Though I can see why some will dislike the Ultima Founding, I'm curious of how it will turn out in the end and if I may create my latest chapter idea the way I wanted (namely a Vlka successor). And yes, Heri. I know that it will be "as horrible as the abomination called Gathering Storm" and so on. Surprise me with something new in your humble opinion, of course. Nothing is more horrible than Gathering Storm lol. He got it right from point to point if you do not believe me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GdxRK3qm1A Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 See, something new. :P Thanks for the link. Will have a look on it, when I can spare some time. :) HeritorA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Will the Ultima Founding and its implications feature in the story or will it be set prior to these events? Just curious. It's set in one of the many parts of the Imperium where "the Imperium" no longer really exists as a cohesive whole. Not that it was ever cohesive, but you know what I mean. Once you cross the divide into Imperium Nihilus, it's Mad Max: Fury Road out there. So timeline-wise, it's around those events; the Ultima Founding doesn't feature directly but its implications do, yep. Kelborn, lordhellblade, Legio Draconis and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is there a space for sizeable* chunk of space to remain under Imperial control, but obviously still cut off? The way some Roman cities and towns survived the collapse of Rome. *sizeable as in enough for a decent sized fleet and large guard armies but not like Ultramar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is there a space for sizeable* chunk of space to remain under Imperial control, but obviously still cut off? The way some Roman cities and towns survived the collapse of Rome. *sizeable as in enough for a decent sized fleet and large guard armies but not like Ultramar. It's nebulous right now, and I can't say much about the setting without getting my wrist slapped, but yes, yes, yes, and indeed so. A lot of that kind of freedom going around. Felix Antipodes, Marshal Rohr and R_F_D 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is there a space for sizeable* chunk of space to remain under Imperial control, but obviously still cut off? The way some Roman cities and towns survived the collapse of Rome. *sizeable as in enough for a decent sized fleet and large guard armies but not like Ultramar. It's nebulous right now, and I can't say much about the setting without getting my wrist slapped, but yes, yes, yes, and indeed so. A lot of that kind of freedom going around. To be more direct - GS = AoS with WFB being hidden instead of destroyed ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Is there a space for sizeable* chunk of space to remain under Imperial control, but obviously still cut off? The way some Roman cities and towns survived the collapse of Rome. *sizeable as in enough for a decent sized fleet and large guard armies but not like Ultramar. It's nebulous right now, and I can't say much about the setting without getting my wrist slapped, but yes, yes, yes, and indeed so. A lot of that kind of freedom going around. Interesting to see enclaves that are still loyal to the throne on Terra getting into wars over resources. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4761824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loesh Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 What i'm most interested in now after reading Primogenitor is seeing Chaos empires established in the Materium on the other side of the wall, I think that's fascinating story potential. Kelborn and Vesper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/5/#findComment-4762429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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