simison Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 My thinking is A. It's forge world, so Tech/Science based Legion (Iron Bears, Steel Legion, Fire Keepers,& Warriors of Peace) and B. Out of those they're by far the most Psyker heavy. Just my thoughts; If others think otherwise that's alright. *shrugs* I guess. My Wardens already have Sarum and an alliance with Abyssii, so no need for a third Forge World. That and Zhao-Arkhad flirts with tech-heresy with the psy-automata and the upgrades for the Legio. And Alex doesn't need that potential political bomb hanging around him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Captain Redd Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Where as Daer'dd is at odds with Hal, and the Legion nears tech-heresy themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skalpynock Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I'd be compelled to give it to the Eagle Warriors, if only to remember that they exist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Not a bad shout, actually Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Although the Iron Bears have their alliance with the Demiurg, while the Eagle Warriors have, or will have in this case, the Cognis Heretica. I'm talking with AO about the Cognis. Well see if he's interested in Zhao or not. Otherwise, I don't think the Iron Bears are a bad fit, and this is one of the smaller forge worlds we're talking about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 15, 2017 Share Posted April 15, 2017 I've spoken with AO, and he is eager for the Eagle Warriors to ally with Zhao-Arkhad. We've determined that, since they are already on the edge of heresy, Zhao-Arkhad would make an excellent foundation for the future Cognis, which isn't one Forge World but a collection of about 30 of them. I figure that the Cognis will be an organized representation of the Dark Mechanicum, which helps differentiate it from its canon counterpart. So, this is not so much as an addition to the Eagle Warriors resources as clarifying and creating depth for the Cognis. While I'm at, here are two other small Forge Worlds mentioned in Zhao-Arkhad's fluff chapter: Shenzen and Boracaros Lux. That's all the info we have on them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4711920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 So, Xana is going to remain a problem during the Insurrection. ...actually, with Hal sent fleeing from Mars, Xana may become the most powerful Dark Mechanicum force, outside of the Eagle Warriors' own Cognis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4735461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 How are we going to have Xana happen during the Insurrection? Similar to how it happens in canon or something else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4735570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Depends on several factors. Where it sits in the Galaxy and Kelbor-Hal's manouevrings after Mars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4735618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Xana sits on the edge of Seg. Pacificus, on the very edge of the galaxy. After reading the Xana incursion, I'm honestly not sure how the Loyalists could counter it. In canon, Dorn sends a lightning raid to wreck and steal the Ordinatii weapons. But one of the critical pieces for the Loyalists is the Dark Sovereign commanded by the Dark Angels. Except the Grave Stalkers have it. What did we say happened to the Amphion? Even then, Xana eventually returns to full strength after a couple of years with a dose of Chaos corruption. Which of the Loyalist Legions are based in Pacificus? Already, it looks bad because the Dune Serpents would be the best Loyalist Legion for this, but they're on the wrong side of the galaxy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4736332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talonair Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 One difference we do have between the canon and BotL is the presence of a loyalist Taghmata at Mars (given the Incursion I think happens very early in the Heresy) as well as a loyalist Mars. A joint Mechanicum-Astartes force perhaps? Substitute the Dark Sovereign for Archmagos Aliana's Armageddon's Blade? Both very advanced ships with (I assume in the case of the Dark Sovereign) expert helmsmen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331241-io-mechanicumdark-mechanicum-general/page/2/#findComment-4736513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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