Shadow War: Armageddon, Chaos factions

[adreal]

Not seeing anything different at the gw site, though the counters and roster is nifty

[Raven1]

Yeah i saw that. The kill team list is the same with the exception of Sisters of Battle and Inquisition. The Inquisition list looks very customizable except you cant have your acolytes take carapace armor

[Panzer]

The Inquisition list is pretty awesome imo. The most outstanding thing i've noticed is that you can make all of your Trooper into BS5 (etc. etc.) Sniper and your Specialists into melee guys with Storm Shields....considering in most other teams the Specialists are the gunners. :D

[ChazSexington]

Just noticed something - Chaos Undivided is back, baby!

[Kol Saresk]

This is on the Games Workshop web site now

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Shadow-War-Armageddon-ENG

 

 

Just a heads up, the web address no longer works.

[Anarnii]

Got the rule book today. Trying to work out the best balance of cultists to marines, pinning is going to be happening a lot but I don't feel the need to go very combat heavy currently

[adreal]

I found a starting warband of 5 bolter marines and two naked cultists is pretty good, gives you bodies and bolters are pretty good

 

Not the most optimal, and if you need high impact (like a plasma or melta) then you could drop a bolter marine

[bozo69pd]

I personally have found omniscopes on the bolters to be huge. Often a full extra turn of shooting if I am going for a sniper setup. I didn't care for my 4 inferno bolter + powersword tzeentch champ start... orks and wyches murdered me in CC and had too many models for me to deal with. I think if I try it again as tzeentch I would go 1 less marine troop, then take 3 cultists dual wielding knives, and add omniscopes to each inferno bolter.

 

Although all nurgle bolter marines with omniscopes is probably the best thing for chaos I bet.

[Custom Hero]

FAQ for SW:A putting an end to the marks debate. If it is a chaos marine, it has a mark (pg2 question 4 under factions).

 

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ShadowWarArmFAQMay2017.pdf

 

 

*edit spelling

[Panzer]

Anything else really would have surprised me lol

[bozo69pd]

FAQ for SW:A putting an end to the marks debate. If it is a chaos marine, it has a mark (pg2 question 4 under factions).

 

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ShadowWarArmFAQMay2017.pdf

 

 

*edit spelling

I cannot believe that people questioned it. It was so obvious. There was a notation next to chaos marines, and one specifically under chaos special operatives.

[slitth]

I will be going for a Alpha Legion force.

But I don't want to make my cultist to chaos-like. I would prefer a more clean "hidden operative" look.

Perhaps a Steel Legion Squad as cultist or something like that.

Any suggestion on another unit that could double as A hidden operatives?

 

And I have no idea what to use as a chaos spawn replacement

[DeadFingers]

I will be going for a Alpha Legion force.

But I don't want to make my cultist to chaos-like. I would prefer a more clean "hidden operative" look.

Perhaps a Steel Legion Squad as cultist or something like that.

Any suggestion on another unit that could double as A hidden operatives?

 

And I have no idea what to use as a chaos spawn replacement

 

Model wise? It really depends on what your definition of a "hidden operative" is.

 

Want a clean look for blending in with citizens and/or guards? I'd say Genestealer Cults bits, those can pass as Cultists easily. Maybe some Imperial Guard bits of your choice, the Command Squads have a lot of flavorful bits. You could even go for some bits from AoS like the Flagellants.

 

Want a spec-ops infiltration squad look? The Militarum Tempestus Scions have some great looking heads straight out of Splinter Cell. Skitarii Rangers have the same look but with the added benefit of hoods and cloaks.

 

But if you don't want to fiddle with bits that much for just a couple of Cultists, I'd honestly just grab a hold of Hoody and Shanky there in the middle (Image by KrautScientist) and modify them a little. I actually have a modified Shanky that I cut in half and glued to kneeling legs I had laying around from some Imperial Guard kit, and the bugger looks ready to stalk in the shadows of Armageddon's hives.

 

[slitth]

I think I will go for the infiltrator look. The Alpha Legion theme of hidden agents coming to support their Alpha Legion masters appeals to me.

So while the spec-ops look is cool, it just do not think that it match the team I want.

 

Genestealer Cults are a good suggestion, but have to many bitz to remove to make the neutral.

I'm looking for troops with as few insignias as possible and not to heavy on the amour.

The Steel Legion and the Death Korps of Krieg have caught my eye because I think it would be cool to have the face hidden.

And a gas mask does this nicely.

 

The Gaunt's Ghosts also fit the theme nicely but have too few models. I just do know....

 

And I am still completely lost for a chaos spawn replacement. Perhaps some kind of servitor?  Adeptus Mechanicus Sicarian Ruststalker?

or perhaps A Blood Bowl Ogre might fit in.

What would be a good fit for the AL?

[Panzer]

 

Genestealer Cults are a good suggestion, but have to many bitz to remove to make the neutral.

 

Take a look at Duncans SW:A team in this months White Dwarf. He used GSC models for some as well and it doesn't look like he had to remove a lot. ;)

[DuskRaider]

You only have to remove the Genestealer Cult icon on their legs... unless you mean the hybrid arms which make great mutations.

 

You do also know that FW literally makes Chaos soldiers, yeah? Renegade Militia.

[Freman Bloodglaive]

I raided eBay for 20 Chaos Cultists and six Chaos Marines from Dark Vengeance, also a single terminator with combi-flamer (because burning mooks is cool) or a chainfist (because, why not?). I also raided my bits box to put together a Marine with heavy bolter.

 

Since they're going to be Word Bearers they'll all get the mark of Chaos Undivided.

 

The Aspiring Champion will be the cool model with the mace, I'll take a power mace instead of a sword if I'm able.

 

A Gunner with heavy bolter.

 

A Marine with bolt pistol.

 

Then fill up the list with cultists with auto pistols. If they survive three battles they get to gain skills. Yay.

[Panzer]

Used a Terminator against a really fed Nid team. God dammit is that guy tanky. He thought up everything and made my team virtually immortal, untill he got charged and I rolled a 2,3,3 (it was a Khorne one) and then failed his armor save on a 4+.

Anyway, now I always gonna take one if I really want to win. Those are sick in SW:A!

[MurderKing]

I think I will go for the infiltrator look. The Alpha Legion theme of hidden agents coming to support their Alpha Legion masters appeals to me.

So while the spec-ops look is cool, it just do not think that it match the team I want.

 

Genestealer Cults are a good suggestion, but have to many bitz to remove to make the neutral.

I'm looking for troops with as few insignias as possible and not to heavy on the amour.

The Steel Legion and the Death Korps of Krieg have caught my eye because I think it would be cool to have the face hidden.

And a gas mask does this nicely.

 

The Gaunt's Ghosts also fit the theme nicely but have too few models. I just do know....

 

And I am still completely lost for a chaos spawn replacement. Perhaps some kind of servitor?  Adeptus Mechanicus Sicarian Ruststalker?

or perhaps A Blood Bowl Ogre might fit in.

What would be a good fit for the AL?

I personally would go with Space Marine scout ( Space Wolves)  rules to represent Alpha Legion operatives. Deathwatch= 40k version of a Alpha Legion Headhunter/Seeker. 

[sushi2001]

What I saw from my limited gaming experience is that a power armoured kill team must try to keep together in threes and twos to help each other up. Close combat is your friend, with space marine stats you can best most non-specialist opponents. Although you can not bring a lot of firepower, unlike the mechanicum or Tau. Bolters are cool but need a laser or a photo-visor or a telescopic sight as the save reduction itself won't do the trick unless used in mass which can not be afforded in shadow war armageddon. Heavy guys rule. Close combat suck as getting to grips with the enemy is either extremely hard (pinning) or unfavourable (specialists). You need to find a balance between power armour and flesh dudes or get skilled with power armour management. 

[bozo69pd]

Telescopic sight was huge on my inferno bolter tzeentch marines, it made a huge difference. Also, I will second that models need to stick together to help each other up. I fought Orks and Wytches who easily beat me in CC by outnumbering me for bonuses.

[Panzer]

Yeah my Tzeentch guy with telescopic sight, infrared and photo visor on his inferno bolter is pretty much my best unit.

 

And since we have a Tyranid player in our campaign I kinda regret not taking a S7+ weapon on my specialist lol