Old 5th edition BA paint scheme

[cerberus_]

Looking back through my 5th edition codex, I saw one of my favorite paint schemes I've ever seen on BA models. The middle of page 70 on the tactical squad marines; the red is amazing.

 

I was wondering if anyone knows the closest way to replicate it? It looks like they used nuln oil wash. This being before nuln oils time however, I assume it must be devlan mud, which was  darker than agrax earth shade and could be mistaken for black wash.

 

As to the red itself, it looks too bright to be mephiston red. Evil sun scarlet might be a match if done over a dark primer and toned down with flesh tone highlight, which they appear to have done.

 

 

Any ideas?

[Xenith]

Got a photo?

[terminatorAM]

It's sometimes hard to replicate a color scheme even if the exact colors are known. The color of the primer makes a huge difference on red paint. As does the number of coats that were​ applied, if an airbrush was used or not, and even the light used when photographing the model.

 

I wish I could give you a straight forward answer, but it's hard to do so with so many variables at play.

 

I'd recommend doing a few practice runs with different combos of primer, base color, and shade and see what looks best. Use what colors you currently have first before buying me stuff. And try painting spare parts before a whole mini.

[DecimusBrutus]

I presume you mean these guys?

 

http://i.imgur.com/v5z7v76.png

[cerberus_]

Yup Decimus, those are the ones. Sorry, I should have included a picture in hindsight.

[Xenith]

(on my phone screen) that looks like a lot of blood red over a white base, recess shade of agrax and highlights up to vomit brown.

 

Current GW paints would be evil suns scarlet over mephiston, then darkened down slightly, perhaps with red glazes. Maybe even ESS with sanguinius artificer tint, if you were lucky and got a set.

 

Alternatively i think Vallejo do a much closer scarlet shade to this than GW does

[Morticon]

agreed! Really like this.  I prefer the black rims on the shoulder pads too, though.  

[Code 187]

agreed! Really like this.  I prefer the black rims on the shoulder pads too, though.

 

Agreed-that's the scheme I'm sticking with for my guys

[cerberus_]

That's close to what my color scheme is now:

 

White primer>khorne red>carroburgh crimon>khorne red>Mephiston red>Evil sunz

 

Think evil sunz is a little too bright when overdone; that's why I start with khorne red, especially over white primer. I think part of the problem is that I'm not using tau ochre light (vomit brown) for highlights. I usually use wildrider red highlights and bloodletter glaze to tone them down before reapplication on the corners, but both of those are a little too orange and seem to wash out the red color of the model when applied.

 

I've always struggled to find the perfect highlights on my blood angels. By the way, anyone else find bloodletter glaze to be more of an orange glaze than a red glaze?

[Xenith]

Yes, personally bloodletter does very little for my models even with a couple of coats.i think you really need 4-5 super thin coats to build up the colour.

 

#aintnobodygottimeforthat

[appiah4]

Thats simple white basecoat blood red ogryn flesh recess wash diluted baal red glaze fiery orange highlights and vomit brown highlights.

[cerberus_]

Thanks, appiah5. Are you sure that's a flesh wash; that seems way to dark, more akin to nuln or agrax.

 

Btw how did you find that out? Personal experience?

[Inquisitor Eisenhorn]

Thanks, appiah5. Are you sure that's a flesh wash; that seems way to dark, more akin to nuln or agrax.

 

Btw how did you find that out? Personal experience?

Not sure what they used in those pics but my go-to recess wash for red is biel-tan green shade. I apply it very precisely but I like the contrast better than what I'm able to get with agrax or other browns, and it's softer than nuln.

[appiah4]

Thanks, appiah5. Are you sure that's a flesh wash; that seems way to dark, more akin to nuln or agrax.

 

Btw how did you find that out? Personal experience?

Its personal experience I used to paint similarly. In a pinch agrax would also work but I find recess shading with agrax on red to be much messier you may want to try both.