Dark Imperium Spoilers/Plot Summary (Read Along)

[Sete]

She may be a recipient of the Emperor's power, but it does not make her a psyker.

 

She does not have psyker keyword :D

[Guest Triszin]

She may be a recipient of the Emperor's power, but it does not make her a psyker.

 

She does not have psyker keyword

im not arguing that shes a psyker, just that at this point she is probably a warp entity

[Sete]

Not a Daemon either :P

[Kelborn]

Call me heretic, but maybe just maybe she's some kind of angel?

[HeritorA]

 

Saint Celestine is not a psyker tho

She had the power of divination in the new book "Shroud of Night"

 

So she had some Psyker traits to say the least 

 

Until she looses her head

 

 

 

Saint Celestine is not a psyker tho

but isn't she a conduit of sorts.

 

I.E. subconcious thought and prayer emotional energy that believes in her to be a saint blessed by the emperor making her potentially a warp entity, where empyrean thought gives her power and always will so long as they believe in her?

 

 

She has a premonition, ability to connect to the Astronomicon light, conduit for the leftovers of the Emperor powers, and by default all that makes her one of the most powerful physic beings in the universe.

The fact she was

killed by Khârn doesnt me she is dead. It was strongly hinted that she already was reincarnated several times. So one more death is nothing for her. She would be back quite soonish. After all her model sells well

 

Kelborn

'Call me heretic, but maybe just maybe she's some kind of angel? '

We all know that in W40K angels are the warp entities

[Xisor]

Sounds like she's going to be around perpetually.

 

Thank goodness there's no new-fangled xenos gods of death and resurrection going around! That might confuse the legions of honest, God-Emperor-fearing faithful into a position where it seems their saint might have a hint of apostasy, infidelity, or indeed heresy...

[Calas Typhon]

 

The fact she was

killed by Khârn doesnt me she is dead. It was strongly hinted that she already was reincarnated several times. So one more death is nothing for her. She would be back quite soonish. After all her model sells well

 

 

She knew that for her, this path, this incarnation ended here. -Page 274 of Shroud of night

 

You might be right there mate reading back on it.

Edited August 10, 2017 by Warsmith Kroeger

[DogWelder]

Well tbh it was a powerful psyker and future Imperial Saint who was responsible for the Black Templars in a way.

 

Euphrati Keeler had to run around Terra for a while when she got back from Isstvan during the Horus Heresy. This was where she met Sigismund who developed a bit of an obsession with her due to her insistence on the Emperor's divinity and knowledge of the future. He went so far as to hide her from Rogal Dorn himself since he knew his father's stance on witches.

 

The Garrro series makes it seem like she had a huge part in converting Sigismund to the Imperial Creed which is a core part of the Black Templar identity today. 

Edited August 10, 2017 by DogWelder

[HeritorA]

Well tbh it was a powerful psyker and future Imperial Saint who was responsible for the Black Templars in a way.

 

Euphrati Keeler had to run around Terra for a while when she got back from Isstvan during the Horus Heresy. This was where she met Sigismund who developed a bit of an obsession with her due to her insistence on the Emperor's divinity and knowledge of the future. He went so far as to hide her from Rogal Dorn himself since he knew his father's stance on witches.

 

The Garrro series makes it seem like she had a huge part in converting Sigismund to the Imperial Creed which is a core part of the Black Templar identity today. 

Keeler made Sigismund a real 'first' templar. If not for her visions and follow-up decisions Sigismund would have died on Phall and wouldn't have been separated to the Black Templars Chapter of the IF.

[Carach]

when was this stuff explained to Sigismund? 

[HeritorA]

when was this stuff explained to Sigismund? 

Flight of Eisenstain novel and Templar audiobook

[Ascanius]

I don't like how there are "Daemons" but no "Angels" in the setting. No forces for the good side or the side of order to combat the timeless eternal primordial annihilatior.

 

That's because no-one in the 40K universe is good.

[Ascanius]

Celestine is definitely a Warp entity, or at least significantly empowered by it - the climax of Fall of Cadia makes that clear, when the Necron pylon tech starts to strengthen the barrier between realspace and the Empyrean and shrink the Eye of Terror, psykers are badly affected, and Celestine begins to weaken significantly.

[Xisor]

The Star Child might be a god for humanity, but to think that it's *good* or that its spectres and spirits (cref Legion of the Damned, Saints, the Sanguinor) are *good* would be to have not only the entirely wrong end of the stick, but in the end the wrong stick entirely.

[Mellow]

You say that (and I agree) but we all know the AoS reboot for 40k is coming. It's inevitable.

 

There will only be 2 factions to choose from eventually.

 

The forces of order

The forces of chaos

[A D-B]

The Star Child might be a god for humanity, but to think that it's *good* or that its spectres and spirits (cref Legion of the Damned, Saints, the Sanguinor) are *good* would be to have not only the entirely wrong end of the stick, but in the end the wrong stick entirely.

 

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[HeritorA]

You say that (and I agree) but we all know the AoS reboot for 40k is coming. It's inevitable.

 

There will only be 2 factions to choose from eventually.

 

The forces of order

The forces of chaos

Forces of order: Imperium, aeldari (all factions), tau, orks (yeap), necrons

The forces of chaos: CSM, daemons, tyranids (as an unstoppable force of hunger)

[A D-B]

M-my hard-researched picture of Boromir and the One Ring... The internet has killed you.

 

EDIT: ...okay, now it's back.

Edited August 14, 2017 by A D-B

[HeritorA]

A D-B

Splendid times after the BL release?

[Xisor]

I appreciated the 1,000 word essay, all told. :D

[Mellow]

I need more novels set in this more recent bit of timeline.

[Calas Typhon]

I need more novels set in this more recent bit of timeline.

SHH Don't say that or the Heresy will never end!

[Mellow]

All I want is a novel every month. Like they did with TBA.

 

I hope the scouring arc will be like that.

 

If there is even going to be a scouring arc.

[grailkeeper]

All I want is a novel every month. Like they did with TBA.

 

I hope the scouring arc will be like that.

 

If there is even going to be a scouring arc.

 

 

I dunno. That output to me made the quality suffer. There were story hooks that could easily have carried through a few books that didn't. IMO Authors in a series should take time to properly read each others work and digest it.

[plastic_slug]

 

All I want is a novel every month. Like they did with TBA.

 

I hope the scouring arc will be like that.

 

If there is even going to be a scouring arc.

 

 

I dunno. That output to me made the quality suffer. There were story hooks that could easily have carried through a few books that didn't. IMO Authors in a series should take time to properly read each others work and digest it.

 

This I would agree with. While a fine concept, I think The Beast Arises would have benefited from a longer time frame to allow more communication between the various authors. I think it would have seriously elevated the quality overall, instead of the pretty uneven books we got. They do need to get cracking on more post Dark Imperium, though.