Servant of Dante Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Yeah I'm not sure what the issue is. She can target herself, just like she would have been able to in every previous edition. She meets the requirements, I don't think there's anything there that even remotely suggests she can't target herself for her AoF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4809011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 But is she friendly? As long as you don't tell her to make you a sandwich, yes. Gen.Steiner, Purifying Tempest, Willy Pete and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4809162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Pete Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 Actually, the sandwich thing pertains to ALL the Sisters, as some Imperial Fists found out a couple of years ago. I even posted it up here as Sisters Don't Like Sandwiches. Gen.Steiner, Purifying Tempest and Montford 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4809593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrus Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Had an interesting thing observed. Celestine by herself is a character, no problem. With the twins theyre combined as a unit. Saw a game where it was played that she and the twins could be targeted because they were a unit and not a character. Are they a character unit that cant be targeted unless closest? Or a unit thats gair game? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beams Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 (edited) I though all three are characters? Edited July 15, 2017 by Beams Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 My read of it is that the whole unit has the Character keyword - as they are all from one unit "box" and the entire "box" is given the character keyword. Inquisitor Psychologis Ruminahui Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusherJoe Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Oh for 's sake, there's really a debate about if Celestine and the Twins are Characters? Servant of Dante 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 They're all characters just like they were in 7th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 It's not even unique to Celestine - there is a tau character and bodyguard with the same (and IIRC they even explicitly call it out for them) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4819965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Yep looks like they're all characters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4820047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.Steiner Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 So cannot be targeted unless they are the closest visible unit. Very useful. Always put Seraphim between Celestine and the enemy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4820053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 So cannot be targeted unless they are the closest visible unit. Very useful. Always put Seraphim between Celestine and the enemy. Or RAW just have any squad on the table be slightly closer. As far as I've read, there's no distinction towards a lone character being able to be targeted when a group is closer still..even if the character is across the table and on the opposite side of the shooter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4820070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.Steiner Posted July 15, 2017 Share Posted July 15, 2017 Yeah, but Seraphim are a good match with Celestine. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4820466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSquig Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 A quick question about the geminae resurrection... so, if Celestine is in melee is imposible to resurrect a Geminae, right? Neither if i put her farther than 1" of the enemy? :/ Maybe sounds silly, but im a N00b :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4826833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 2" behind Celestine should be outside an inch from an enemy - unless they've piled in to surround her. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4826836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSquig Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 So, it doesnt matter if half of the unit is in melee. Sounds a bit tricky, but if posible. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4826838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinda Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 A quick question about the geminae resurrection... so, if Celestine is in melee is imposible to resurrect a Geminae, right? No that is not right. Why would it be? Celestine's base is more than 1" across so she could be base to base with an enemy and still place the geminae in base contact behind her. Celestine would have to be surrounded so that there was no where to place the Geminae and that is not an easy task. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4827667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.Steiner Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Advantages of a big base. To be fair I haven't used Celestine enough (or properly) this edition.To clarify: She cannot 'Deep Strike' in like Seraphim; she must start on the table, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Advantages of a big base. To be fair I haven't used Celestine enough (or properly) this edition. To clarify: She cannot 'Deep Strike' in like Seraphim; she must start on the table, right? Yes, but even if she could deepstrike you probably would not want to. Using an act of Faith on her (which she kindly provides herself) you can double move and go 28". This should put you closer to the enemy that deepstriking would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.Steiner Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Yeah. I found that one out the hard way. A foolish mistake I won't make again. Ho hum.28" double move from a 12" deployment puts you 40" onto the board, which is almost at the enemy table edge after a charge! Erk. Violence ensues. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Yeah, I played half a game (2000 points of un-optimized Sisters ws 1000 points each of orks and marines). I threw Celestine in there even though I normally wouldn't, since I wanted to see how she actually played. I hadn't given her rules a proper read, since I don't have much interest in her. Holy crap she's a monster, and it's not just that you can throw her 6 S7 attacks at an enemy and she comes back to life if they get through her 7 wounds and the Geneni, all of that is only 250 points. I know I'm just a bit late to the party here, but dang, she's quite the thing. I got her across the board T1 with her AoF of course. In other news, I continue to be disappointed with GW's implementation of Seraphim. I would say more, but that's off topic. Edited July 22, 2017 by Servant of Dante Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracpanzer Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 In other news, I continue to be disappointed with GW's implementation of Seraphim. I would say more, but that's off topic. She is pretty cool.... Locked in Celestine as my warlord for an escalation league before I had played her. Really isn't very nice to everyone when she uses her AoF and hits their line the same time as all the doms in repressors. But what else should the Heretics expect? Servant of Dante 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montford Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Put another notch on 8th Ed Celestine's belt: she killed Typhon in my game today! Gen.Steiner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4828989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 And I did make that banner, it's in my sig :D (unfortunately I wasn't able to exactly match the red in my Witchhunting Appreciation banner :() Montford and Gen.Steiner 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4829041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen.Steiner Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I like the sig. :D Servant of Dante 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335406-st-celestine-in-8th/page/5/#findComment-4829719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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