Brother Heinrich Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Lotta absolutes being tossed around here... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Lotta absolutes being tossed around here...Abos:cussinglutely ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 Lotta absolutes being tossed around here... Because Heresy is staying 7th until they say it isn't. It's the only fact we know my man Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zopha Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 How do people feel about not-including the rules optional super-heavies? It's not been said outright that those rules are/aren't in the book but, since they highlighted fortifications and terrain that have been included I thought it would have been something to mention. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's a very tough one that... Really half of the rules were pretty darn outdated anyway and only there to let some players use a cool model on their collection. It would be great to include them but I'd imagine it's more than likely on their "List" to do a formal book or supplement with them all in maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Let’s see what happens with the pushback. I don’t think people who prefer to stay 7th have the right to exclude others with a different sentiment from expressing their views. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4936974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's a very tough one that... Really half of the rules were pretty darn outdated anyway and only there to let some players use a cool model on their collection. It would be great to include them but I'd imagine it's more than likely on their "List" to do a formal book or supplement with them all in maybe? They have said, that Escalation and Stronghold will be in that book, have they not? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4937055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zopha Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It's a very tough one that... Really half of the rules were pretty darn outdated anyway and only there to let some players use a cool model on their collection. It would be great to include them but I'd imagine it's more than likely on their "List" to do a formal book or supplement with them all in maybe? They have said, that Escalation and Stronghold will be in that book, have they not? I thought it was only Stronghold Assualt that's has been added to the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4937066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Let’s see what happens with the pushback. I don’t think people who prefer to stay 7th have the right to exclude others with a different sentiment from expressing their views. Absolutely, but it seems the majority prefers stay in 7th. If GW will change the edition in HH probably everyone will adapt, but if the community still prefer 7th probably GW will maintain current edition Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4937166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That is the local majority at best if you know what I mean . ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4937502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 “IT IS REAL! Issue was due to the lamination on the front coming off, and the whole lot had to be sent back. Should be ready for general sale before the year is out. But won't be in time for Xmas shipping deadlines.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zopha Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Garro also said: No rules have changed past the FAQs. All core rulebook stuff is in there, so of course, basic super heavy rules are in.The rules for including non-heresy SH are still there, but you need to source your own rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Thats so disappointing :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Garro also said: No rules have changed past the FAQs. All core rulebook stuff is in there, so of course, basic super heavy rules are in. The rules for including non-heresy SH are still there, but you need to source your own rules. Except for Invisibility and multi-bombing (at least)... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 What Garro is writing contradicts what the designer said on the stream. There are changes, but yes they are really minor ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 What Garro is writing contradicts what the designer said on the stream. There are changes, but yes they are really minor ones.Thing is:What small and what big changes are depends highly on who you ask. Just think about the grenades thing. Some players may think that it isn't a big deal but others like me think it is a game changer. At least for some units. ;) We'll see but damn I don't want to wait anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I see HH as Dead now with the decision. I will buy Dorn to paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 I see HH as Dead now with the decision. I will buy Dorn to paint.Why, what have you expected?It was chrystal clear that they won't change anything which would force them to re-write the other red books, wasn't it? As far as I know the fuss was all about having less work not more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kijamon Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Can there not be an 8th edition thread or subforum somewhere? I came to this board as it was the busiest one I'd seen around but it's just full of the boo hoo's cause heresy is staying in 7th for the time being. They said that like six months ago, there's a fan made 8th ruleset, I can't fathom why this is still a shock to some people. Play the 8th version and enjoy a friendly welcoming subforum with fellow 8th edition Heresy fans and let those who want to play it as Forge World intend just get on with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ficinus Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Given what Chapter Approved is going to do to Horus Heresy superheavy point costs, I wouldn't necessarily say seventh/Horus Heresy first ed is dead. The chapter approved points change will force the fan made 8th ed team to decide whether they ignore all updates to points made by GW, ignore some updates to points made by GW, or adopt all updates to points made by GW. The last will annoy superheavy fans and the first will annoy people looking for balance and looking for a fandex grounded in GW's points. The second is the best option for keeping both groups happy, except for the question of where to draw the line: keep all points for FW superheavies static while other units change? There will inevitably be some disagreement over this issue. But, more than anything, I just can't wait for the rulebook and hope it brings a bit more life to my local scene. Horus Heresy 1st ed! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4941766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 Well they cut the team in half if that tells you anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4942241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Was there any update during the open day this weekend? Any chance this comes out by end of the year? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4942343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M@verik115 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Was there any update during the open day this weekend? Any chance this comes out by end of the year? They said by the end of the year, but honestly I am not getting my hopes up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4942360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I hope this gives them some time to include more stuff and further fine-tune the ruleset. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4942362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 I hope this gives them some time to include more stuff and further fine-tune the ruleset. With half their crew cut and the only issue with the release being a production quality issue ... I think its unlikely they will add or even edit anything Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/340898-hh-rulebook-rules-updates-discussion/page/6/#findComment-4942407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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