Blood Angels Codex brief review

[Chaplain Gunzhard]

I gotta admit I was kinda hoping that Sanguinor and Astorath would go back to being secondary characters and Dante would be The Man again... hugely disappointed with that, but cheaper units especially dreads and a few nice stratagems should make things a lot more fun.

[JamesI]

Thanks for posting all this James!

 

Re. The killshot stratagem, if we do get it does it have to be three of the same Predators or can it be a mixed group of all the variants?

Killsshot does not specify.  just says Predators, but both Baals and regular have keyword Predator.

[durdle-durdle]

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

[NTaW]

Thanks James!

 

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

It's pretty amazing. Consider how awesome overcharging plasma is for the sole reason the shots do 2d each.

[General Strike]

12 d2 shots could be great.

[JamesI]

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

I like that it just requires 3 predators, not 3 of a specific type of predator since i own 2 Baals and 1 Regular pred.

[Julius Firefocht]

Hmm quick check, do our Sanguinary Priests still have the +1S aura?

[RelentlessPursuit]

Hmm quick check, do our Sanguinary Priests still have the +1S aura?

yes.

[Are Verlo]

I’m sure we all want to know if captain tycho’s deadman’s hand have been updated?

[Brother_Dan'l]

Still not up for pre-order here in the States. I find that most unfair.

 

I’m really excited to see what new combos and old favorites I’ll have access to in the Codex. I’ve been collecting all sorts of new models in anticipation of the release and soon I’ll be able to decide where to start. Though pretty obviously I need to pick up the Sanguinor. Again.

 

Thank you James for having the patience to answer all these questions. And the mojo to have gotten the advance copy.

[brother_b]

Still not up for pre-order here in the States. I find that most unfair.

 

I’m really excited to see what new combos and old favorites I’ll have access to in the Codex. I’ve been collecting all sorts of new models in anticipation of the release and soon I’ll be able to decide where to start. Though pretty obviously I need to pick up the Sanguinor. Again.

 

Thank you James for having the patience to answer all these questions. And the mojo to have gotten the advance copy.

Now it is.

[Brother_Dan'l]

Still can’t preorder the enhanced Codex on iBooks, but grabbed a bunch of models and the cards direct from GW. Happiness.

 

Thanks brother_b!

[NTaW]

 

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

I like that it just requires 3 predators, not 3 of a specific type of predator since i own 2 Baals and 1 Regular pred.

 

 

oooooo but is it only against vehicles and monsters?

[JamesI]

I’m sure we all want to know if captain tycho’s deadman’s hand have been updated?

Yes, Str user, -2 AP D1.

 

 

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

I like that it just requires 3 predators, not 3 of a specific type of predator since i own 2 Baals and 1 Regular pred.

 

 

oooooo but is it only against vehicles and monsters?

 

yes

[StaggerLee]

so if i went lamenters, would would i get relics/rules/strategems wise? just the +1 to wound and no relics, strategems etc?

[JamesI]

so if i went lamenters, would would i get relics/rules/strategems wise? just the +1 to wound and no relics, strategems etc?

If you use Lamenters as your chapter keyword, you lose access to the relics (except the worst one in my opinion) and named characters.

[StaggerLee]

Its ok we have a forge world one. so wed get the naff sword, our special char, and all the rules and strategems and warlord traits? thats not a bad deal

[Frater Antodeniel]

 

so if i went lamenters, would would i get relics/rules/strategems wise? just the +1 to wound and no relics, strategems etc?

If you use Lamenters as your chapter keyword, you lose access to the relics (except the worst one in my opinion) and named characters.

 

 

But you can have access to the Chapter Master of the Lamenters, Malakim Phoros, using the FW datasheet.

 

Malakim Phoros is a powerfull Character, that will clearly become more dangerous with the new Red Thirst. (A shame that he cannot benefits of "Death Visions of Sanguinius" due to being a named Character, it would have been so fitting in regard of his fluff.)

 

Also, the Standard of Sacrifice should have been open for Lamenters, for more than any other, they are the very definition of Sacrifice/Selfless Heroism.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Frater Antodeniel

[JamesI]

I've watched some codex review videos and seen some mistakes made.

 

As an example, I've seen some saying Death Company can be armed with 2 chainswords per model for even more attacks.  DC can not do that, you can trade the DC pistol for melee weapons but not an additional chainsword.

 

Now that is legal to do with Vanguard (part of the reason I like Vanguard better).

[Are Verlo]

Does the magna grapple work as in the index?

[JamesI]

Does the magna grapple work as in the index?

The only change is it says you have to only charge a Vehicle unit to get the +2 inch bonus.

[General Strike]

Now Im thinking of Sang Guard with Inferno pistols and power fists for anti armor death.

[JamesI]

I find it odd that in an attempt to keep Sanguinary guard cheap, I give them Power Fists!

[banis]

 

They said on the stream killshot affects Baal preds. I can’t decide if d2 assault cannons is amazing or not.

I like that it just requires 3 predators, not 3 of a specific type of predator since i own 2 Baals and 1 Regular pred.

 

RAI and people on twitch and all that might be different.. But RAW it says predators.. And since there is a unit called predators it referes to them and only them. It does not talk about keywords so it does not matter that baal preds have that keyword.. We need a FAQ for it to work imho.  Fire frenzy on works on hellbrutes and not  for the other FW hellbrutes even though they have keyword hellbrute. 

[BaldrickRSA]

Hello all,

So far I like a lot what I am reading regarding what the new BA codex is bringing us. I love DC and Lamartes, and based on this thread, its all good.

Loving the new Descent of Angels Stratagem. Just want to get some clarity on the CP costs when using stratagems. So, lets assume I have 2 x 15 man DC units with jump packs all kitted out with necessary thunderhammers and power swords and chainswords, plus Lemartes. Both DC units are exactly the same. Lets continue with the scenario/assumptions. Opponent deploys his forces, all of my forces are deployed in the skies, and my 3 scout units will come onto the table via reserves. My 1st turn, I deploy both DC units and Lemartes, via Descent of Angels, I deploy 9inches from relevant enemy units, and get ready to roll 3D6 for a charge. So…..

1. I deploy 2 x 15man DC units, with Descent of Angels Stratagem. Does this cost me 2CPs for deploying both units?
2. Or, is it, 2CPs per DC unit I deploy with Descent of Angels. So, for two units that would be 4 CPs. Similarly, 3 x 15man DC units would be 6CPs.

Which is the correct approach: 2CPs for the use of the stratagem for the army, or 2CPs for each Unit using the stratagem? Just want to get clarity on this