Prot Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 That can be a brutal match up. I recently played that tree DG/Daemon match up and alpha Legion Oblits. It is nasty. I have no idea How I would take that on with Custodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5103593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 My Culexus won the game for me... shut down his psykers, took out a 10-man squad of cultists then got into a squad of Oblits shutting them down at a key moment late in the game. My Wardens teleported on a flank, got inside a LoS blocking ruin and slaughtered a big squad of Plaguebearers then held an objective. Shield-Captain mounted on Dawneagle held my back line removing two squads of cultists. Allarus took out another huge block of Plaguebearers before getting gunned down by the Oblits but they were a great distraction taking the heat off other units. Prot and Aothaine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5103631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I think if you can tie up the oblits early on or stay it of LOS it’s fine. By a buffed up group of oblits with a tree just makes Custodes cry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 The Culexus literally danced through fire. It really frustrated my opponent. What is the cover save for Nurgle Oblits by the tree ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) I think if you can tie up the oblits early on or stay it of LOS it’s fine. By a buffed up group of oblits with a tree just makes Custodes cry.I tried that and in my case it did not work. The tree let’s Oblits simply walk away and shoot normal from cc. The Culexus literally danced through fire. It really frustrated my opponent. What is the cover save for Nurgle Oblits by the tree ? 2+ to your save. I was shooting -2 Ap do they get a 2+ cover save. Nasty stuff. I should clarify by saying this was in a very recent ITC GT I entered so it was somewhat expected. Edited June 12, 2018 by Prot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Yeah I knew it was pretty good - I didn't waste any shots on any of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabstuffed Mushrooms Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 This is anecdotal and is based on a grand total of just a few games, but my local meta has adapted to the Custodes fairly quickly (the past few months). I'm seeing more AP2 and things that can tear me a new one, like Obliterators. I love Custodes, but I think Wh40k is all about shaking things up to get people to try different things. I'm having an absolute blast with them - but they'll either go big or go home against people familiar with their durability. I might spice it up with one of the new Knights! BLACK BLΠFLY and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Oblits has left our local meta. You might see a chaos soup splashing a unit of 3 now but thankfully the double tree 18 oblit list is now gone As mostly Custodes still struggle with triple super heavy. Either three shadowswords or now, knights is gonna be trouble for us. Every weapon they have wrecks us from range. They wreck us in combat. And it takes our whole army to take one down in combat. Tough matchup we were ok when knights weren’t popular but I suspect you won’t be able to go to any major tournament now without seeing multiple all-knight lists Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Hopefully the new Imperial Armour will introduce some actual anti armour weapons for the Custodes. It's sorely needed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenerationTerrorist Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Lost my first game ever with my Custodes last weekend. Was playing against Tau and got blown off the table by Riptide/Deep-Striking Suits and Hammerheads/Longstrike. I just couldn't get close enough to do enough damage. Ran my usual list of Vanguard Detachment: Trajan Shield Captain on Dawneagle with Salvo Launchers and Mis 3 Allarus with Axe and Mis 2* Contemptor with Kheres AC/Fist Vexilus with +1A Banner, Relic Spear and Mis 4 Praetors with HB Land Raider with HK Missile Thinking of swapping out the Landraider for another Pair of Contemptors (with MM/Fist) to enable me to split it into 2 Vanguards, count Trajan as Regular Captain in Terminator Armour, and upgrade the Vexilus to an Allarus one too, for some Deep Strike fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
banis Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Codex has been out for ahwile now. What is the conclusion with the "normal" custodes and mixing halbards with sword and board?. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 You mean are they viable ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Oblits has left our local meta. You might see a chaos soup splashing a unit of 3 now but thankfully the double tree 18 oblit list is now gone As mostly Custodes still struggle with triple super heavy. Either three shadowswords or now, knights is gonna be trouble for us. Every weapon they have wrecks us from range. They wreck us in combat. And it takes our whole army to take one down in combat. Tough matchup we were ok when knights weren’t popular but I suspect you won’t be able to go to any major tournament now without seeing multiple all-knight lists The jury is still out on the Knights but at this early stage it looks like no one thinks they're contenders in competitive play so it might actually help Custodes if that's the case. Lost my first game ever with my Custodes last weekend. Was playing against Tau and got blown off the table by Riptide/Deep-Striking Suits and Hammerheads/Longstrike. I just couldn't get close enough to do enough damage. Ran my usual list of Vanguard Detachment: Trajan Shield Captain on Dawneagle with Salvo Launchers and Mis 3 Allarus with Axe and Mis 2* Contemptor with Kheres AC/Fist Vexilus with +1A Banner, Relic Spear and Mis 4 Praetors with HB Land Raider with HK Missile Thinking of swapping out the Landraider for another Pair of Contemptors (with MM/Fist) to enable me to split it into 2 Vanguards, count Trajan as Regular Captain in Terminator Armour, and upgrade the Vexilus to an Allarus one too, for some Deep Strike fun. You do have a lot of eggs in one basket. I don't know if another Contemptor on top of the two you have is going to really make that big a difference. Flat out, and I know you probably know this, the first thing anyone is going to tell you to make the list stronger is -more- bikes. My suggestion is consider Deepstriking an Achilus? Get lascannon spear going in T1 if you can with Deepstrike, T2 in his face. The problem here is this is such a brutal miss-match. The last tournament game I played against Tau was brutal. Make sure you're using ample terrain to be fair too. I think an inherent issue is Tau are super susceptible to something we don't have... Psykers. Catching them is very hard. Riptides can stand to nearly anything short of mortal wounds with pumped up saves. If you get first turn, you need to put high heat on those Riptides. Otherwise it's always going to be uphill. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Prot do you see a lot of Tau in your meta ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Prot do you see a lot of Tau in your meta ? Since the codex dropped, it definitely increased. I wouldn't call them 'popular' per say but a fair amount in the competitive scene. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betrayer41 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I finally am getting my first game in next week again Necron, I'm happy to be able to finally contribute to this forum! Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
banis Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 You mean are they viable ? I mean is it worth it mixing in some custodes with shields or should one just take 3 with spears and save the points.:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5104865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 For sure especially if you’re playing a battalion. This Friday afternoon in Austin, Texas I’ll be throwing down with the ever eternal Goatboy in a 40k death match at the BoLS HQ. Thomas will be running some Imperial soup featuring the new Knights and Slammaguinius Bros ! I’ll be running my patented secret tech Ultramarines with some friends (Custodes)... Check it out. http://Twitch.tv/belloflostsouls Prot and Aothaine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5105066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I’ll look out for it. Do you have a time estimate? BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5105072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtse Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Not that I think knights will win a big event. They won’t. But they’re a gate keeper. Much like they were in 7th. You probably will end up meeting a knight list on your way to a major event finals and so you gotta be able to beat the gatekeepers. Tau as well that matchup is so terrain dependent. If you play without much LoS blocking terrain your basically messed. If your playing where you can hide as you move up your golden. Geoff’s two games against alex at London’s GT were perfect illustration of how not to play against tau (game 1) and then how to play (game 2) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5105251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I’ll look out for it. Do you have a time estimate? Prolly around 4 pm CT. I’ll post the exact time when I know. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5105373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Prolly around 4 pm CT. I’ll post the exact time when I know. I'll be at work... but good luck! ^_^ I'll try and watch it later. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5105839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 You mean are they viable ? I mean is it worth it mixing in some custodes with shields or should one just take 3 with spears and save the points. Yes, they are worth it. I tend to run Custodian Guard heavy lists and mixing 1-3 Shields in a 7-10 man squad can be effective. banis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5107377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Had a game vs BA Smash Brothers,three Knights, Mephiston and chaff ended with a nice win. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5107444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I have yet to play that build with my Custodes. It would be an interesting match up for sure. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343856-how-are-your-custodes-doing/page/20/#findComment-5108468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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